League News: NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) | 2024-25 Summer Edition

[AlexModvechkin8]

Kappo traded to Seattle for a 27 year old defenseman who was drafted in the 4th round in 2015 with awful performance metrics and two magic beans that will almost certainly turn out to be nothing. Where’s the poster who told me New York would be insane to part with Kakko for Lapierre?

 

[895]

Kappo traded to Seattle for a 27 year old defenseman who was drafted in the 4th round in 2015 with awful performance metrics and two magic beans that will almost certainly turn out to be nothing. Where’s the poster who told me New York would be insane to part with Kakko for Lapierre?

How does this somehow validate your proposal? It didn’t happen did it?

It’s a pretty light return I think but part of that is because it’s to a far western conference team. They were not going to trade Kaako to the caps.

Furthermore I never said Kaako was super valuable, I said Lapierre isn’t that valuable.

 

[marcel snapshot]

They seemed eager to move him out of here before the Dec 20 trade freeze. Also, other than Vancouver by a close shave, not really possible to move him farther away from NYC than Seattle. So, yeah, message delivered I guess

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

How does this somehow validate your proposal? It didn’t happen did it?

It’s a pretty light return I think but part of that is because it’s to a far western conference team. They were not going to trade Kaako to the caps.

Furthermore I never said Kaako was super valuable, I said Lapierre isn’t that valuable.

Wasn’t it “Lappiere has no value”?

 

[895]

Wasn’t it “Lappiere has no value”?

I don’t think I said that but feel free to prove me wrong

 

[Dr John Carlson]

I don't know why people should be surprised by this. Kakko is working on his 6th season as a bottom sixer in this league. GMs don't care as much about his draft position as people on HF do.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I don’t think I said that but feel free to prove me wrong

Can’t find the post…..don’t care enough to look further. Maybe you changed or deleted it?

 

[895]

Can’t find the post…..don’t care enough to look further. Maybe you changed or deleted it?

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[qc14]

Hilariously awful in every way for the Rags.

I still don't understand what Seattle is doing. While the value itself is fine they've built an entire team full of really good third liners.

 

[Random schmoe]

I'm a fan of Chytil's, but I think the Eller acquisition likely closes the door on that one.

With Chytil being signed for 2 more seasons having Eller shouldn't really stop them from making a good deal for the long haul if they can. But it certainly isn't an area of need now, you'd be right on that.

 

[twabby]

It's funny when teams refuse to trade in-division.

I would love to trade in-division! You trade to make your team better and likely make the other team worse! I'd love to make another division team worse!

 

[StrikingDistance]

The Rags board is embracing the trade news even better than I expected.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

The Rags board is embracing the trade news even better than I expected.

Dude is a bust…..not sure what kind of rich return they were expecting.

 

[RedRocking]

Kappo traded to Seattle for a 27 year old defenseman who was drafted in the 4th round in 2015 with awful performance metrics and two magic beans that will almost certainly turn out to be nothing. Where’s the poster who told me New York would be insane to part with Kakko for Lapierre?

Borgen is like a younger, even shittier version of Trouba. The Rags reportedly coveted him for a while, lol.

It’s like I always say: raise your kid to be a big, physical RHD, and they’ll be set for life.

 

[trick9]

Hilariously awful in every way for the Rags.

I still don't understand what Seattle is doing. While the value itself is fine they've built an entire team full of really good third liners.

I mean... they've given up nothing here. Mid pick, propably another they could've gotten for Borgen.

It's worth a shot. Kakko should be motivated and he has been badly mismanaged by the Rangers so who knows if there is actually something there when you give him a shot. As for his development it's been actually quite ridiculous to date. They kept pushing him for top-line minutes at the age of 18 when he was nowhere near NHL-ready and kept dropping him down the line-up, but this dude has never played an AHL game. They forced top-line minutes to 18-year old and for the 5 years after that they've kept him out of the top-6. He should have played in the AHL really early in his NA career since they had the luxury to do it and had to work his way up there, rather than be handed those minutes early.

He's at the same age as McMichael who only really now is breaking out. I'd guess in a game of ''who is more likely to turn into a top-6 forward'', i'd rather pick Kakko than 2 3rd rounders but hey, they pushed the situation all the way to this where they were literally forced to take anything they can get for him before this turns into an even bigger PR nightmare.

 

[usiel]

I mean... they've given up nothing here. Mid pick, propably another they could've gotten for Borgen.

It's worth a shot. Kakko should be motivated and he has been badly mismanaged by the Rangers so who knows if there is actually something there when you give him a shot. As for his development it's been actually quite ridiculous to date. They kept pushing him for top-line minutes at the age of 18 when he was nowhere near NHL-ready and kept dropping him down the line-up, but this dude has never played an AHL game. They forced top-line minutes to 18-year old and for the 5 years after that they've kept him out of the top-6. He should have played in the AHL really early in his NA career since they had the luxury to do it and had to work his way up there, rather than be handed those minutes early.

He's at the same age as McMichael who only really now is breaking out. I'd guess in a game of ''who is more likely to turn into a top-6 forward'', i'd rather pick Kakko than 2 3rd rounders but hey, they pushed the situation all the way to this where they were literally forced to take anything they can get for him before this turns into an even bigger PR nightmare.

I believe that one of the most common develop mistakes for high picks is when they are more physically developed, aka NHL ready language. I feel some NHL franchises can rush these. In a situ like Tom Wilson he could impact the game as an 18 year old but it wasn't in a high skill expectation. Granted in total rebuild situation like SJ is in compared to the Rangers who have been relatively expected to be in the playoffs each year the leash is short. So they get pushed down into the bottom sick with what I would expect to be players that know their role and upside at the NHL who play to their role which I think can't stunt some offensive development for those prospects that fall into the physically mature category but need 'offensive seasoning' in the pro ranks like at the AHL level.

 

[895]

I like to think the Rangers current misfortunes are all karmic balance for being handed a Hart candidate forward and a Norris winning defenseman all for free.

Sucks to suck.

 

[qc14]

I mean... they've given up nothing here. Mid pick, propably another they could've gotten for Borgen.

It's worth a shot. Kakko should be motivated and he has been badly mismanaged by the Rangers so who knows if there is actually something there when you give him a shot. As for his development it's been actually quite ridiculous to date. They kept pushing him for top-line minutes at the age of 18 when he was nowhere near NHL-ready and kept dropping him down the line-up, but this dude has never played an AHL game. They forced top-line minutes to 18-year old and for the 5 years after that they've kept him out of the top-6. He should have played in the AHL really early in his NA career since they had the luxury to do it and had to work his way up there, rather than be handed those minutes early.

He's at the same age as McMichael who only really now is breaking out. I'd guess in a game of ''who is more likely to turn into a top-6 forward'', i'd rather pick Kakko than 2 3rd rounders but hey, they pushed the situation all the way to this where they were literally forced to take anything they can get for him before this turns into an even bigger PR nightmare.

Yea I don't necessarily disagree with any of it but I just don't get their endgame. They already have 7 (!!!!) forwards making between $4.5M and $6.5M and just added a guy who it seems like best-case scenario becomes another one. Especially so when they still have basically two of their own versions of Kaako in Beniers and Wright.

Also I would push back a little on them giving up "nothing." Two 3rd rounders can certainly turn into something useful

 

[Midnight Judges]

I like to think the Rangers current misfortunes are all karmic balance for being handed a Hart candidate forward and a Norris winning defenseman all for free.

Haha I hope that's not true! The Caps got Strome for nothing, right?

 

[895]

Haha I hope that's not true! The Caps got Strome for nothing, right?

Well those guys forced their way to NYR. Anyone could have signed Strome!