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bacchist said:
The rule has screwed the Caps before, too. It sucks on so many different levels.

I'm not totally opposed to being able to challenge based on off sides. If a team scores on the rush and the play should have been dead, that is a reasonable challenge. But there has to be some cut off.

Just look at this. The goal is 20 seconds into the video and the clip starts after the missed off sides call. This kind of thing damages the integrity of the game.

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It's also very silly to me that we're all watching the play resume like nothing happened. We're literally watching shots/hits/saves/etc. that will be have to be removed from the score sheet. It was all a big nothing and we could have just left the room.

If you're gonna stop the play and make a ruling, its should happen within a few seconds, like goalie interference calls are. Otherwise move on. No take backs. This ain't preschool.
 
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RedRocking said:

Another Pat McAfee “Hockey is Awesome” segment, AKA “Everything twabby Hates about Hockey.”

Cool that he promotes the sport on ESPN. Don’t know how people can listen to him for an hour though. Endless Dudebro slang. He’s like a man cave made flesh, lol.
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It’s a bit of a schtick….but yeah….I can only take him in doses….it’s the stuff in-between that’s really good.
 
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The Blues have 11 goals in 5 games and their answer is less forwards, more D? At times, the mindset of NHL coaches/GMs is staggeringly impenetrable
 
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41 game ban for first offense gambling? That seems REALLY severe.

I assume this was for gambling on the NHL and probably his own games, and not just some random NFL parlays on DK.
 
g00n said:
41 game ban for first offense gambling? That seems REALLY severe.

I assume this was for gambling on the NHL and probably his own games, and not just some random NFL parlays on DK.
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Unless it a goalie or a star player, I can't see how he can make his team lose or win. ,
 
shtorm2005 said:
Unless it a goalie or a star player, I can't see how he can make his team lose or win. ,
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He didn't even bet on the NHL.

This seems like an incredibly stale, overly draconian policy.

Not only do I think athletes betting on other leagues should be OK, I'd go so far as to say they should be able to bet on their own team, if there was some way to monitor that. Letting them bet on other teams in the league opens the door too much to collusion and game fixing among small groups, but why can't you bet on your own team? Gonna try harder? Oooooo
 
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g00n said:
From an article:

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He didn't even bet on the NHL.

This seems like an incredibly stale, overly draconian policy.

Not only do I think athletes betting on other leagues should be OK, I'd go so far as to say they should be able to bet on their own team, if there was some way to monitor that. Letting them bet on other teams in the league opens the door too much to collusion and game fixing among small groups, but why can't you bet on your own team? Gonna try harder? Oooooo
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No….allowing betting is just asking for trouble…..these are young people with too much $$ to burn….betting on other sports I don’t see as big an issue with….but their celebrity status could be used to gain “insider info” even for other sports, and that can get nefarious….
 
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g00n said:
From an article:

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He didn't even bet on the NHL.

This seems like an incredibly stale, overly draconian policy.

Not only do I think athletes betting on other leagues should be OK, I'd go so far as to say they should be able to bet on their own team, if there was some way to monitor that. Letting them bet on other teams in the league opens the door too much to collusion and game fixing among small groups, but why can't you bet on your own team? Gonna try harder? Oooooo
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Wait what?!?

I assumed it was for the NHL, who gives a fudge if he’s betting on NFL games. That’s bullshit.
 
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CapitalsCupReality said:
No….allowing betting is just asking for trouble…..these are young people with too much $$ to burn….betting on other sports I don’t see as big an issue with….but their celebrity status could be used to gain “insider info” even for other sports, and that can get nefarious….
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I don't know about insider info on other sports that couldn't also be obtained by anyone else with access or "celebrity status".

There's nothing stopping that from happening right now...like if a trainer or team manager leaks some info to a family member who bets. No real way to stop that.

The prohibition against gambling by athletes is meant to prevent game fixing. I don't see how betting on other leagues or oneself has anything to do with that.
 
up untill this season the NFL had a full year for gambling on any sports. See Calvin Ridgy. This season they changed the rule to much less. I think its 4 games now and no betting the locker room.

NHL is always miles behind the other leagues
 
Ovechkins Wodka said:
up untill this season the NFL had a full year for gambling on any sports. See Calvin Ridgy. This season they changed the rule to much less. I think its 4 games now and no betting the locker room.

NHL is always miles behind the other leagues
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As evidenced by their late-90s alt-pop musical tastes
 
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g00n said:
I don't know about insider info on other sports that couldn't also be obtained by anyone else with access or "celebrity status".

There's nothing stopping that from happening right now...like if a trainer or team manager leaks some info to a family member who bets. No real way to stop that.

The prohibition against gambling by athletes is meant to prevent game fixing. I don't see how betting on other leagues or oneself has anything to do with that.
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Come on…Athlete A is friends with Athlete B who is in a different sport, they could both talk shop and mention who is and isn’t playing or playing well due to injury or whatever. Feels like it would be a much more common thing if you allowed them to gamble freely.

And I would hope if a trainer leaked info and his family/friends used that illegally, they would be met with the same consequences. But really, that’s a bogeyman scenario you’re spinning for this argument. You really think that’s happening much?

I also don’t believe it’s just to prohibit match fixing myself. That’s just the most obvious issue.
 
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NHL to it players - don’t watch hockey on TV, because if you do you’ll be bombarded by ads telling you to bet, and if you do what the people paying us for the ad time tell the viewers to do - well you won’t be playing. Capiche?
 
CapitalsCupReality said:
Come on…Athlete A is friends with Athlete B who is in a different sport, they could both talk shop and mention who is and isn’t playing or playing well due to injury or whatever. Feels like it would be a much more common thing if you allowed them to gamble freely.

And I would hope if a trainer leaked info and his family/friends used that illegally, they would be met with the same consequences. But really, that’s a bogeyman scenario you’re spinning for this argument. You really think that’s happening much?

I also don’t believe it’s just to prohibit match fixing myself. That’s just the most obvious issue.
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What is there other than match fixing that warrants prohibition?

The rest is speculative. There's no reason to believe an NFL and NHL player are going to set up some kind of illegal insider information ring, and we have no way of controlling that for anyone else around any of the clubs.
 
g00n said:
What is there other than match fixing that warrants prohibition?

The rest is speculative. There's no reason to believe an NFL and NHL player are going to set up some kind of illegal insider information ring, and we have no way of controlling that for anyone else around any of the clubs.
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Risk management is a specialty of mine…instead of speculating about all the brilliant nefarious schemes we know criminal people can and will come up with, just eliminate all risk and don’t allow it. Think like the business not the employee in this case IMO. Even the unlikeliest scenario could do irreparable damage to a league.
 
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CapitalsCupReality said:
Risk management is a specialty of mine…instead of speculating about all the brilliant nefarious schemes we know criminal people can and will come up with, just eliminate all risk and don’t allow it. Think like the business not the employee in this case IMO. Even the unlikeliest scenario could do irreparable damage to a league.
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Yes but there's such a thing as being too cautious.
 
Since the dawn of sports, and gambling - legal or otherwise - there’s been issues.

I understand the irony of pro sports being sponsored by legal gambling outfits. If the leagues didn’t have that, I would be much more inclined to agree with draconian policies. They do, so it’s a difficult situation.
 
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