NHL investigating Dallas Stars for CBA violation (upd: fined)

[gojetsgo]

 

[Maple Leaf]

It's a Southern US team. They'll probably give them a draft pick and leniency on their cap, giving them props for showing initiative.

They need all the help they can get

 

[StumpyTown]

Either the players are to stupid to understand they do not need to practice during the break, or they are to stupid to realize this is what they wanted in the newest CBA and it will be the first thing the league uses as leverage come CBA talks in 2 years.

It's probably more a case of the younger guys doing whatever it takes to make it in the NHL and not get sent down to the minors. They do what they are told. From the article it appears they were "expected" to be there for that practice, as in "told to be there or else". It wasn't an optional practice for them in any way.

 

[ijuka]

NHL banning young players from hanging out with teammates at a free skate at the team facility is the funniest thing ever.

NO YOU MUST STAY AT HOME ALONE AND CAN'T TRAIN!

You probably don't understand what peer pressure is in a social environment such as a team.

Not even giving them a choice is the only correct move.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

You probably don't understand what peer pressure is in a social environment such as a team.

Not even giving them a choice is the only correct move.

So Wyatt Johnston felt peer-pressure to be there but Sam Steel and Colin Blackwell didn't?

One guy leads the team in TOI for forwards by 2 minutes, is the most relied upon center, the other two are fringe NHLers/4th liners.. and the budding superstar felt the pressure to be there..

 

[gojetsgo]

So Wyatt Johnston felt peer-pressure to be there but Sam Steel and Colin Blackwell didn't?

One guy leads the team in TOI for forwards by 2 minutes, is the most relied upon center, the other two are fringe NHLers/4th liners.. and the budding superstar felt the pressure to be there..

have you contacted the league and provided the independent results of your investigation?

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

So Wyatt Johnston felt peer-pressure to be there but Sam Steel and Colin Blackwell didn't?

One guy leads the team in TOI for forwards by 2 minutes, is the most relied upon center, the other two are fringe NHLers/4th liners.. and the budding superstar felt the pressure to be there..

You're missing the point. That poster was explaining why "optional" practices like this are explicitly banned in the CBA.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

have you contacted the league and provided the independent results of your investigation?

Like I said from the start, the NHL can investigate and if the team was involved through coaches/staff its 100% worth a fine.

BUT

The single quote from DeBoer doesn't necessarily make it fine worthy without further detail and people who I respond to are assuming so many things from the DeBoer quote. They assume it was a practice, they assume it was team led, they assume many details.

 

[Armourboy]

Like I said from the start, the NHL can investigate and if the team was involved through coaches/staff its 100% worth a fine.

BUT

The single quote from DeBoer doesn't necessarily make it fine worthy without further detail and people who I respond to are assuming so many things from the DeBoer quote. They assume it was a practice, they assume it was team led, they assume many details.

Well according to tweets apparently the Stars are being fined by the NHL, so it must be closer to our reality than yours.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

Well according to tweets apparently the Stars are being fined by the NHL, so it must be closer to our reality than yours.

Sounds good to me. Glad the NHL looked into it and figured out the details.

 

[elmaco]

So Wyatt Johnston felt peer-pressure to be there but Sam Steel and Colin Blackwell didn't?

One guy leads the team in TOI for forwards by 2 minutes, is the most relied upon center, the other two are fringe NHLers/4th liners.. and the budding superstar felt the pressure to be there..

The rule isn't made for the Stars specific. I'm sure you understand why it's there but keep on trolling.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Woah, so many folks playing their years-old victim cards here.

Bring out your dead past injustices!

 

[Oilslick941611]

When did the coach use the word practice? He didn't.

Did you listen to the press conference where he listed off the players that were on the ice before he was even in the building? They were skating when he walked in to the facility.. interesting practice setup there.

People are so hard stuck on it being a practice, when it wasn't. Elliot Freidman and Robert Tiffin are now calling it a "skate" and not a "practice" anymore because the reporting wasn't even correct lmao

you are really splitting hairs here that doesn't matter. It doesnt matter if it was a practice or a skate. Teams were told to not open their facilities to players over the break. Full stop.

 

[LOFIN]

So was it a practice or not?

What does it f***ing matter? It could be an optional video session and there would be a problem. The issue is, that it's obviously not optional for those fringe NHL players and rookeis, who are fighting for a spot in the lineup. They are pressured into working on their bargained holiday.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Like I said from the start, the NHL can investigate and if the team was involved through coaches/staff its 100% worth a fine.

BUT

The single quote from DeBoer doesn't necessarily make it fine worthy without further detail and people who I respond to are assuming so many things from the DeBoer quote. They assume it was a practice, they assume it was team led, they assume many details.

the stars were in violation by just having their facility open....

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Woah, so many folks playing their years-old victim cards here.

Bring out your dead past injustices!

Who are you attacking and who are you defending in this post?

 

[A1LeafNation]

What choice did they have?
Should they have just ignored the rule break and put themselves in breach of contract with the NHLPA?
It’s one of those the rules are the rules situation no matter how inconvenient it was for the parties involved.
And the 100K fine was likely just viewed as the cost of doing business for the Maple Leafs

Perhaps an exception clause for saving everyone's time at the airport.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Who are you attacking and who are you defending in this post?

Nobody, just making a general observation. Readers may themselves decide upon those for whom this shoe fits.

Always fun to see the Ghosts of Past Injustices appear!

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Nobody, just making a general observation. Readers may themselves decide upon those for whom this shoe fits.

Always fun to see the Ghosts of Past Injustices appear!

I am a reader and I am confused lol

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

Can’t even provide ice? That’s cruel to junkies like Crosby. He NEEDS his daily skating fix.

 

[Mr Positive]

I agree with this rule

It's easy to say that if players want to practice extra, they should be allowed to spend that time doing that if they wish. Except, it can lead to a perception that if you don't give up your free time, you aren't as committed to winning. A lot of players and teams would submit to it out of obligation

Make a hard rule that you can't do that. People should be allowed days off they bargained for. Don't make players feel bad for doing so

 

[account deactivated]

Force the Stars to play their next 5 games on the PP the entire time.

They'll never score a single goal.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Charge Santa too because why not. He is who created all of this.

 

[Stephen]

They should just pre-emptively fine every team $10 million to be put in escrow and Czar Gary can offer a refund based on good behaviour.

 

[MikeyMike01]

Got to love labor unions