NHL Historical Simulator

[Yurog]

It's a great tool for simulating greatest historical matchups such as DET'02 agains EDM'84
https://www.whatifsports.com/nhl/default.asp#top

 

[Sprague Cleghorn]

Pretty cool. I tried the 1938-39 Bruins vs the present day Coyotes. The Bruins won 2-0 but I noticed a few errors in the Bruins lineup. Bauer had double the ice time of his Kraut linemates and Clapper was listed as a RW when he had already transitioned to D a few seasons before. I'm guessing there will be a few errors for multi positional players.

 

[Pominville Knows]

You notice that this is a multi sport page when they give players a salary after shallow things like 1992-93 scoring, not fully, but Selanne's rookie year has a bit too big a number compared to some later Anaheim seasons. I guess the best thing to do is just grab a players most expensive season if you wanna top the player out.

 

[tony d]

Fun stuff for sure, always good to look back at something like this.

 

[Cruor]

This was a pretty fun timewaster, here's the 84-85 Oilers against the 91-92 Penguins. Gretzky comes up big

Oilers vs Pens

 

[Pominville Knows]

This was a pretty fun timewaster, here's the 84-85 Oilers against the 91-92 Penguins. Gretzky comes up big

Oilers vs Pens

The Pens did poorly during the regular season though, which seems to mean most, if not all in this thing. The Pens most of the time was not a very stellar team without a fully healthy Lemieux, or at least without him in the lineup. The one time they were really stellar in 92/93(Which should perhaps be the one season to use in this thing vs. Oilers), they and Lemieux instead underperformed in the playoffs.

 

[VanIslander]

It is awesome!!!

I look forward to using it. As a longtime all-time drafter, the practice of imagining what-if of players playing against players from different eras has been a constant thrill.

To imagine entire teams playing against each other and having a simulator taking some numbers into consideration in crunching one possible scenario?

That's thrilling!!

Now, if only a simulator would let us construct our own teams out of OUR OWN assemblage of all-time greats from different eras, taking into account their individual performances against the best of their own eras.

 

[Doctor No]

Now, if only a simulator would let us construct our own teams out of OUR OWN assemblage of all-time greats from different eras, taking into account their individual performances against the best of their own eras.

I'm looking forward to this release:
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/newsletters/nl0168/

Later this month. Granted, the baseball version is in its sixteenth edition (so more advanced), but it does exactly what you'd like.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

I'm a big fan of WIS sports and have played their baseball simulator for years, but I stopped with their hockey simulation relatively quickly, because I didn't find it all that accurate.

Baseball lends itself pretty well to a numbers game, but even it suffers when you pit Barry Bonds Jr. vs. a deadball pitcher like Cy Young. Generally, though WIS has done a pretty good job (although the engine is overdue an update, and they need to make the site mobile friendly).

Hockey, on the other hand, has far more intangibles, and in particular I didn't find the physical side of the sport was taken into account by game engine. That, combined with the fact that hockey has changed a lot over the last 60 years (compared to baseball), making era comparisons that much more difficult to replicate. WIS' hockey simulation, although a good try, kinda shoots wide. IMHO.

 

[tinyzombies]

76-77 habs over 38-39 bruins 2-0...

 

[weaponomega]

83-84 Oilers win 19-0 over 92-93 Senators

 

[frontsfan2005]

Played around with the MLB part of the site, and had the 2003 Tigers beat the 1927 Yankees 4-3.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Played around with the MLB part of the site, and had the 2003 Tigers beat the 1927 Yankees 4-3.

How many tries did that take?

 

[Hammer Time]

Played 1986-87 Oilers against 2014-15 Sabres expecting a blowout.

Got a 2-1 OT win for the Oilers, Enroth making 65 saves in a losing cause (32 saves in the second period alone).

How does the simulation decide the ice time? Just noticed that Gretzky had *only* 15 minutes of TOI (with just 1 PP shift and 0 SH shifts), while Kevin McClelland had 25 minutes. That might explain why the Sabres at least had a fighting chance.

 

[Hammer Time]

Pretty cool. I tried the 1938-39 Bruins vs the present day Coyotes. The Bruins won 2-0 but I noticed a few errors in the Bruins lineup. Bauer had double the ice time of his Kraut linemates and Clapper was listed as a RW when he had already transitioned to D a few seasons before. I'm guessing there will be a few errors for multi positional players.

It seems to have Red Kelly programmed in as a centre. Any attempt to play him at defence will result in blowout losses in which Kelly is -5.

 

[Martin Riggs]

Played the 86-87 Oilers against the 12-13 Blackhawks. Hawks won 5-2. Not so sure about that one.

 

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Action PC Hockey gives pretty good results as well. Not perfect, but I've yet to run across a sports sim that was.

 

[SealsFan]

1973-74 Seals 7, 1974-75 Capitals 4

Two goals apiece for Ivan Boldirev and Joey Johnston... and Stan Gilbertson scored for BOTH TEAMS, 4 minutes apart in the 2nd period!!

Two worst goalies got the start, Ted Tucker vs. John Adams, with Ron Low coming in for relief. SOG, 59-56 in favor of Seals.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I'm impressed that Cully Wilson actually draws unsportsmanlike conduct penalties out of his opponents.

Tried the Oilers/Pens matchup... 5-5 after the first period

 

[Doctor No]

Two worst goalies got the start, Ted Tucker vs. John Adams

I just built out Tucker's game logs for 1973-74 (and hence, for his NHL career).

For that matter, Adams' Capitals logs deserve at least a PG-13 rating:
http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/adams.html

 

[Hockey Outsider]

I simulated a few games between the 1975 Capitals and 1984 Oilers. Maybe 30 or so, with the Oilers winning every time.

In one game Edmonton won 19-1. Gretzky scored 12 points (5 goals, 7 assists). Kurri and Coffey both had 10 points.

In another game Edmonton won 16-1 and Gretzky scored 8 goals (move over Joe Malone!)

 

[Claude The Fraud]

Being a big fan of Mogul Baseball, I would like to find a hockey game that would be as complete Mogul Baseball is.

 

[GMR]

Played 1986-87 Oilers against 2014-15 Sabres expecting a blowout.

Got a 2-1 OT win for the Oilers, Enroth making 65 saves in a losing cause (32 saves in the second period alone).

How does the simulation decide the ice time? Just noticed that Gretzky had *only* 15 minutes of TOI (with just 1 PP shift and 0 SH shifts), while Kevin McClelland had 25 minutes. That might explain why the Sabres at least had a fighting chance.

Yeah, I just did '97 Wings vs. '91 Penguins, and had the same issue.

Jamie Pushor played over 33 minutes, with Lidstrom logging just 18 minutes.

Fedorov had around 13 minutes and Yzerman just over 11 minutes. Kozlov didn't even hit the ice for a single shift.

 

[Buck Aki Berg]

I just did 92-93 Quebec vs. 92-93 Buffalo, playing out my favourite what-if - Buffalo wins in six games, with Brad May scoring the series-winning goal in overtime again

 

[Pominville Knows]

Being a big fan of Mogul Baseball, I would like to find a hockey game that would be as complete Mogul Baseball is.

Franchise Hockey Manager 2 is being released september 28th, on PC. It is surely miles better than the first edition and the database goes all the way back to 1930, including the WHA. The historical hypotheticals i have seen have gotten me on the bandwagon.