GDT: NHL Free Agent Frenzy 2024

[Ararana]

And they never seem to note that Tampa or Miami (or Dallas, etc) *might* be a more fun place to live....

As a guy who lives in Texas, don't lump Dallas in with Tampa and Miami

 

[MarchessaultCantRead]

The Avs have almost $14 million assigned to a cripple and a druggie for the foreseeable future. Shit’s gonna be rough for a while boys.

 

[Murzu]

Slavin deal is a steal.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807770216773849162

 

[hockeyfish]

Good morning. I'm looking forward to a day of smart discussion and positive energy.

 

[Murzu]

Good morning. I'm looking forward to a day of smart discussion and positive energy.

Rolfmao

 

[Eltuna]

What I love about it the most is that there are certain Canadian people I follow on twitter who are screaming about the tax advantage for Reinhart with that deal. Yet crickets when you point it out that Guentzel didn't basically take any discount going to Tampa.

Gee, I wonder why a player who just won the Stanley Cup would be eager to stay in the winning team for a friendly deal? Especially when it's a nice place like Florida to begin with?

Noooo, got to be the taxes...

I think it would be obtuse to discredit the tax advantage, people hate hearing about it but it’s tough to ignore. Teams are even openly discussing it as a way they hope to achieve discounts with free agents to the media.

Of the five tax advantaged teams, they have been responsible for 7 of the last 10 cup finalists, with multiple other top 4 finishes among them.

Add to that, all five teams have made at least one cup final since 2017, with three of the teams making multiple of them. That is a lot of data suggesting that the advantage is legitimate.

 

[jaisen73]

The Val situation just flat out sucks because there is no relief from that cap hit aside from it not counting during suspension. Landy is and can remain LTIR depending. And if he is done (and I hope that isn't the case) then the Avs will be active on the trade market later in the season.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Devils aren’t pissing around.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Good morning. I'm looking forward to a day of smart discussion and positive energy.

 

[LOFIN]

I think it would be obtuse to discredit the tax advantage, people hate hearing about it but it’s tough to ignore. Teams are even openly discussing it as a way they hope to achieve discounts with free agents to the media.

Of the five tax advantaged teams, they have been responsible for 7 of the last 10 cup finalists, with multiple other top 4 finishes among them.

Add to that, all five teams have made at least one cup final since 2017, with three of the teams making multiple of them. That is a lot of data suggesting that the advantage is legitimate.

What the data tells you, is that those team have had competent management, aggressive GMs, combined with great drafting.

 

[Richard88]

It goes beyond drafting. That's a big part, but decision making has been lacking for quite some time. When you are picking players like Colton over Drouin you have to question what is going through their minds. Drouin is simply a better hockey player than Colton. And I don't want this guff of it's hard to move money BS, it's not we just don't do it.

It's not just about moving Colton for money, it's about finding a replacement at a low enough caphit. Who would you be acquiring/signing to play 3C at <$1.5m?

Also note that a Colton trade can still happen, it's just that it would need to be to a team that Colton approves. Obviously a much harder trade today than yesterday for that reason, but not impossible.

 

[tucker3434]

What I love about it the most is that there are certain Canadian people I follow on twitter who are screaming about the tax advantage for Reinhart with that deal. Yet crickets when you point it out that Guentzel didn't basically take any discount going to Tampa.

Gee, I wonder why a player who just won the Stanley Cup would be eager to stay in the winning team for a friendly deal? Especially when it's a nice place like Florida to begin with?

Noooo, got to be the taxes...

They love riling up the guys that never left their hometown and can't imagine there's more to life than "going home."

 

[BobRossColton]

Not even a whisper about us..

 

[Azrael89]

With our cap situation, can the Avs even fill out the roster? Lol

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Not even a whisper about us..

CMac gonna use this as a day or rest.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I think it would be obtuse to discredit the tax advantage, people hate hearing about it but it’s tough to ignore. Teams are even openly discussing it as a way they hope to achieve discounts with free agents to the media.

Of the five tax advantaged teams, they have been responsible for 7 of the last 10 cup finalists, with multiple other top 4 finishes among them.

Add to that, all five teams have made at least one cup final since 2017, with three of the teams making multiple of them. That is a lot of data suggesting that the advantage is legitimate.

Is it an advantage? Sure. But it’s been an advantage for well over 20 years and the Preds, Panthers, and Lightning for some time were all just awful teams. I’d say that the fact that the fact that these teams are actually good now has way more reasoning for attracting players than anything.

 

[chet1926]

It's not just about moving Colton for money, it's about finding a replacement at a low enough caphit. Who would you be acquiring/signing to play 3C at <$1.5m?

Also note that a Colton trade can still happen, it's just that it would need to be to a team that Colton approves. Obviously a much harder trade today than yesterday for that reason, but not impossible.

While yes this is also the issue. This is where bad drafting kills, but if I were the Avs I'd just go with ELC Ritchie.

When you are cap crunched you have to put some faith in ELCs. Take a chance and if it doesn't work you can go the deadline route and find someone passable at the deadline.

 

[tucker3434]

While yes this is also the issue. This is where bad drafting kills, but if I were the Avs I'd just go with ELC Ritchie.

When you are cap crunched you have to put some faith in ELCs. Take a chance and if it doesn't work you can go the deadline route and find someone passable at the deadline.

!!!

Yeah, everybody wants an ELC to take on that role of 40 point 3C, but... we don't have one.

 

[Richard88]

The Val situation just flat out sucks because there is no relief from that cap hit aside from it not counting during suspension. Landy is and can remain LTIR depending. And if he is done (and I hope that isn't the case) then the Avs will be active on the trade market later in the season.

CMac will just have to find a way to turn that situation into an advantage somehow.

For instance, whilst the Landeskog/Nichushkin/Lehkonen situations aren't ideal, it does present an opportunity to sell prospective free agent forwards on the idea of having plenty of ice-time in the Avs top 6 this season, most certainly until November.

Any reclamation project guy will see that there's a couple of big holes in the top 6 to start the year, so they'd have a great chance of making an impact and earning a big payday next year.

Skinner, Arvidsson, and Robertson are some names that come to mind. Maybe even guys like Kubalik, Beauvillier, and Olofsson too.

 

[hockeyfish]

With our cap situation, can the Avs even fill out the roster? Lol

Yes. Just enough space.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Oilers are after Arvidsson.

 

[LOFIN]

Not even a whisper about us..

There were no whispers before the Byram-Mittelstadt trade, or Mittelstadt extension either. The Avs run a tight ship.

 

[RockLobster]

While yes this is also the issue. This is where bad drafting kills, but if I were the Avs I'd just go with ELC Ritchie.

When you are cap crunched you have to put some faith in ELCs. Take a chance and if it doesn't work you can go the deadline route and find someone passable at the deadline.

Again....

Callum Ritchie does not play the type of heavy/physical game that Bednar wants out of his bottom 6.

So it's not even an "if it doesn't work..." it's WHEN it doesn't work, you'll be posting every day about how the team sucks, CMac sucks, and you'll probably toss in a "And Landeskog is the worst Captain ever" just to make sure you play all the hits.

 

[chet1926]

Not even a whisper about us..

There won't be anything. We won't do much, you got 14M in handcuffs, and we are going watch Drouin walk on a 3x3.5ish deal and the board will melt down and rightfully so.

I really hope Landy can play day 1 at semi passable level. If he can't play day 1, not really sure what they are going to do.