Nhl.com writers vote Mackinnon mvp for the 2nd straight year

[GhostfaceWu]

Both Mack and Draisatile have teammates in the top 10 in scoring.

The next closest player for Tampa is Hagel but they played on separate lines.

Tampa Bay has four PPG players three players other than himself that put up 35 or more goals and his goalie has almost identical numbets to helle.

 

[RussianBum86]

Tampa Bay has four PPG players three players other than himself that put up 35 or more goals and his goalie has almost identical numbets to helle.

The canadian writers will never give Kucherov his due because of the russian factor.

 

[RussianBum86]

Is this ends up being the MVP finishes then here are how big guys of this generation stack up:

Player	Top 3 in scoring	Top 5 in scoring	Top 3 in Hart voting	Top 5 in Hart voting
McDavid	8	8	6	8
Kucherov	5	6	3	3
MacKinnon	2	5	5	6
Draisaitl	4	6	1	2
Pastrnak	2	3	1	2
Panarin	1	2	1	2
Matthews	0	1	2	3

MacKinnon has the 2nd best hart finishes but Kucherov has clearly the 2nd best scoring finishes. It's easy to understand why Draisaitl gets snubbed in Hart voting (McDavid) but Kucherov has also been getting low Hart finishes compared to his point finishes his entire career.

Anti-russian bias is acceptable and celebrated in the great white north. The russians are just lucky to play in the league is the narrative they use.

 

[crowfish]

The media darling strikes again Being best friends with Sid is paying dividends.

Let's review the season that has the NHL writers glowing about him:

MacKinnon 2024-25
Pts/game: 4th (3rd amongst his position, trailing the Rocket Richard winner)
Points: 2nd
Goals: Outside top 30
Assists: Tied 1st (lower assist per game than Kucherov)

Maybe he was the analytical darling though? Defence?

Nope.

Per JFresh 2024-25 Player Cards:

MacKinnon
WAR 98%
Offence 100%
Defence 27%

McDavid
WAR 99%
Offence 100%
Defence 67%

Draisaitl
WAR 100%
Offence 100%
Defence 55%

Kucherov
WAR 99%
Offence 97%
Defence 30%

What is the logic for him to win MVP this year? 10 more points than Draisaitl in 8 more games played while scoring 20 fewer goals? Make it make sense.

 

[Nathaniel]

The media darling strikes again Being best friends with Sid is paying dividends.

Let's review the season that has the NHL writers glowing about him:

MacKinnon 2024-25
Pts/game: 4th (3rd amongst his position, trailing the Rocket Richard winner)
Points: 2nd
Goals: Outside top 30
Assists: Tied 1st (lower assist per game than Kucherov)

Maybe he was the analytical darling though? Defence?

Nope.

Per JFresh 2024-25 Player Cards:

MacKinnon
WAR 98%
Offence 100%
Defence 27%

McDavid
WAR 99%
Offence 100%
Defence 67%

Draisaitl
WAR 100%
Offence 100%
Defence 55%

Kucherov
WAR 99%
Offence 97%
Defence 30%

What is the logic for him to win MVP this year? 10 more points than Draisaitl in 8 more games played while scoring 20 fewer goals? Make it make sense.

8 more games of value

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Tampa Bay has four PPG players three players other than himself that put up 35 or more goals and his goalie has almost identical numbets to helle.

What we the excuse last year when he had

144 point Ross win
100 assists
54 more points than #2 on Tampa
Vasy posting a .900

Oh right, "it was Mack's turn"

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

I’m confused about Hellebuyck being in the conversation given he is not blowing other goalies out of the water.

 

[T REX]

Remember before last season when The Hockey News ranked Kucherov as the 22nd best player in the league? Yeah the hockey media has no bias against him.

massive bias against him...you can read it on many GDT on here...it's rampant.

He is more infamous than famous over here

 

[crowfish]

8 more games of value

I guess. Out of curiosity, were you on the side of McDavid vs Matthews in 2021?

 

[GhostfaceWu]

What we the excuse last year when he had

144 point Ross win
100 assists
54 more points than #2 on Tampa
Vasy posting a .900

Oh right, "it was Mack's turn"

Trust me from the day the season ended last year Ive thought Kucherov should win the mvp. Has absolutely nothing to do with him this year. Stop projecting your hurt feelings of other people thinking someway on other people.

 

[Video Nasty]

Today I learned that Kucherov could have scored more points, but he wanted to show mercy to the bad teams

Seriously. Does he really seem like the kind of guy to show mercy to the weak inside his profession?

 

[M88K]

The good ol' canadian boy is winning... shocked

 

[RevengeOfTheDrai]

I want Kuch to win because it’ll do more for his legacy than Mack’s. With another Hart Win, Kuch’s trophy case will start looking like one a top 10 player all time has. Kuch might be firmly a top 5 winger of all time when it’s all said and done.

 

[Regal]

What we the excuse last year when he had

144 point Ross win
100 assists
54 more points than #2 on Tampa
Vasy posting a .900

Oh right, "it was Mack's turn"

It’s just silly to post things in this way as if 4 fewer points, more goals, more non-empty net points, better underlying numbers and a similar percentage of points on his teams goals isn’t close.

 

[Video Nasty]

I guess. Out of curiosity, were you on the side of McDavid vs Matthews in 2021?

Usually the side that is least threatening to Crosby.

 

[Dingo]

LMAOOOOO this is embarassing.

The indirect Kuch disrespect never, ever stops.

Kucherov is lucky that MacKinnon allows him to win the Art Ross every year.

#CanadianHumility

 

[crowfish]

Usually the side that is least threatening to Crosby.

Everything is looking pretty threatening this year

MacKinnon wins, ties Crosby for 2 MVPs
Kucherov wins, ties Crosby for 2 MVPs
Draisaitl wins, ties Crosby for 2 MVPs

Go Hellebuyck go!

 

[RevengeOfTheDrai]

Everything is looking pretty threatening this year

MacKinnon wins, ties Crosby for 2 MVPs
Kucherov wins, ties Crosby for 2 MVPs
Draisaitl wins, ties Crosby for 2 MVPs

Go Hellebuyck go!

Not to mention Kucherov would have three Art Rosses compared to Crosby’s two. If Kuch, Drai, and Mack age well it could be an interesting discussion when their careers are over. They are on peak Crosby’s level, just need the longevity.

 

[creg]

A guy chasing the Cup and not individual trophies.

I always found this to be such a stupid talking point, like what are Kucherov/Drai/Helly not chasing the cup? How is what MacK is doing literally any different other than just regurgitating the same media slop.

 

[Rschmitz]

Somehow winning the Ross is less meaningful to Hart voters than the number of chickpeas you eat in your salad.

You literally have people in this thread trying to quantify Mackinnons “will to win” value, because he chooses his team over something selfish like scoring points.

I would give it to Draisaitl where you can at least argue he would have won it if he stayed healthy

 

[eviohh26]

Hart is starting to become a joke of an award.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Kucherov doesn't have the Tim Hortons commercials to bring this home.

 

[Spirits]

MacKinnon doesn't lead Kucherov in one meaningful stat.

Head to head in the finals he does.

 

[FrankSidebottom]

Head to head in the finals he does.

The same finals where MacKinnon was -1 and Kucherov was +3?

 

[Nathaniel]

Everything is looking pretty threatening this year

MacKinnon wins, ties Crosby for 2 MVPs
Kucherov wins, ties Crosby for 2 MVPs
Draisaitl wins, ties Crosby for 2 MVPs

Go Hellebuyck go!

Kucherov is threatning mcdavid if anything
. That is now 3 art ross wins over prime mcdavid n beat him in ppg all 3 as well. Also lets not forget kucherov led the 17-18 season in scoring for 95% of the season with mcdavid getting hot in garbage time n passing him in the final weeks.

Old man crosby is doing just fine as he himself is further extending his legacy with another top 10 point finish.
Top 10
Sid 1,1,2,2,3,3,3,3,5,6,10,10,10
Kuch1,1,1,3,3,5,7
Drai 1,2,2,3,4,4,7,8
mac 2,2,5,5,5,7,8