Oh nice. They not only assume MacKinnon would have had a higher PPG in his final 3 games to overtake Kucherov, but they also omit that MacKinnon actually played one more game than Kucherov.
Nhl.com writers vote Mackinnon mvp for the 2nd straight year
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Oh nice. They not only assume MacKinnon would have had a higher PPG in his final 3 games to overtake Kucherov, but they also omit that MacKinnon actually played one more game than Kucherov.
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Yeah it's probably a big reason he's been top 2 in pts twice and was on the ice for the most goals for over the last 2 years I believe
Duke74
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Lots of people play with McDavid and no one else on the Oilers comes close to even sniffing 100 points. My guess is that in the real world, you can't barely stand straight in a pair of skates.
Nah Drai should win it. Hellebuyck had a great year but he wasn't the best goalie by all that much in most stats. If team support plays a role in the arguments against Kucherov and Draisaitl it absolutely should for Hellebuyck too.
MacKinnon fanboys are completely insufferable. At least last year they had arguments for their guy. There's zero argument for MacKinnon this year, just arguments AGAINST the other three real candidates.
Kuch had more points, tied in assists, more goals (on 55 fewer shots lmaooo), more primary assists, 9 more goals at 5v5, 9 more primary points at 5v5, 8 more total points at 5v5, and fewer empty net points. Save it about the defense too, all the stat cards have Kucherov's defensive value as not only a positive but close to MacKinnon's. And all this in fewer games. Imagine that.
And I'd still take Leon for Hart, btw. Just saying the "MacKinnon has a chance narrative is so braindead." Or if he does have a chance, it proves this award may not mean as much as it should.
"Top 2 in points twice" is doing so much heavy lifting here lmfaooooo. Would you care to share who finished first those two years?
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Centers will always win over wingers if it's close. It's the tougher position to play.
Sure. But MacKinnon is not close. He trails Leon or Kuch in basically every meaningful stat. And he's one shy of the same number of empty net points as "Empty Net Merchant" Kucherov last year but the Mack fanboys don't seem to mind all of a sudden
Recency bias is really going to hurt Draisaitl. Not only he missed 11 games at right near the end of the season, McDavid came back for the last 4 games of the season, all in which the Oilers won said 4 games. Draisaitl can still win it, but out of the 4 candidates, he has the biggest hill to climb. Shame he got injured, he was my choice for MVP until his injuries.
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Live look at the debate on what criteria to use to not pick Kucherov
Sportsbooks weren't even putting odds out on MacKinnon at the end of the year in the Hart race, they took him out altogether when Kucherov tied him in points and won the Ross outright on a tiebreaker. I really don't even think he's going to be a candidate.
Kucherov. Mackinnon finished top 2 twice. It isn't all or nothing, 2nd is still really good.
Kucherov is definitely a better finisher. Mackinnon is a better play driver. It depends what you value more. Both put up similar stats , kucherov produced a bit better.
Yes Mackinnon finished *gasp* 2nd , twice.
I wouldn't personally give it to either but the nhl.com staff picked Mackinnon. Not everything has to be about putting the other down at every turn
Lol, while we're just posting opinion pieces and treating them as gospel, here's an article from the Denver Gazette saying MacKinnon isn't even the best player on his team Mark Kiszla: While Nathan MacKinnon is Hart Trophy contender, he's not real MVP of this Avalanche team
IWantSakicAsMyGM
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I think NHL.com is essentially the media and public relations department of the NHL, and shouldn't be treated as anything more. They may be pretending to be journalists, but they are really just mouthpieces for the league.
And the 4th Estate isn't dying, it's purposefully being killed by the people who want to make the world even worse in the name of profits, and it's been going on since at least 1987.
Ahahahahahahah
That' isn't even about makar - it's about their GM and says he is the real mvp
Talk about not even reading the first 2 lines and posting an article
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Why wouldn't ya?
IWantSakicAsMyGM
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As someone who has lived in Colorado for almost 30 years, I have 2 questions.
1 - What the hell is the Denver Gazette?
2 - When did Mark Kiszla become worth listening to?
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No doubt, Draisaitl >>>Hopkins by a long shot, was just pointing out McDavid is capable of boosting totals. Then again so is Draisaitl to a lesser extent.
