Nhl.com writers vote Mackinnon mvp for the 2nd straight year

[Three On Zero]

It’s always been Mac, Kuch and Helly down the stretch. Just curious in which order

 

[DownIsTheNewUp]

Remember before last season when The Hockey News ranked Kucherov as the 22nd best player in the league? Yeah the hockey media has no bias against him.

 

[GlitchMarner]

Never understood why Mack gets charity votes its so weird

Hart voters do love the guy.

Assuming he finishes top three this year, he'll have finishes of 1, 2, 2, 3, 5, 6 and 1, 2 or 3 this year.

That's a better Hart record than guys like Trottier, Bossy, Sakic, Yzerman, Forsberg.

Even Ovechkin only has five top three Hart placements.

 

[Ghost of Murph]

They used a 5-4-3-2-1 voting system. Makar came in 9th with only 3 points and Pastrnak came in 11th with only 1 pt. This poll says more about the voters than anything else.

 

[Hanji]

MacKinnon is quickly becoming the new Johnny Toews; the good old boy who can do no wrong.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Ya I dunno about that one

 

[eojsmada]

Not surprising. I'm more curious to see the player vote, this year.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Hahaha - okay yeah this one he probably should not win. That said - it would be really funny reading the salt from tampa fans if he did unjustifiably win this one.

 

[DFC]

These guys watch less hockey than us, apparently.

 

[DFC]

Hahaha - okay yeah this one he probably should not win. That said - it would be really funny reading the salt from tampa fans if he did unjustifiably win this one.

Lol our salt would be directed at last year, because this would confirm the award is more about reputation. Kucherov isn't really having a Hart season this year either. The team around him has been much better.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Lol our salt would be directed at last year, because this would confirm the award is more about reputation. Kucherov isn't really having a Hart season this year either. The team around him has been much better.

Lol nobody wants the hart this year!

Let's just toss it in the ocean

 

[obZen]

Since the three forwards are so close it should go to Hellebuyck.

 

[VinikToWinIt]

Nathan MacKinnon didn't play the last three games of the regular season because of a minor injury. Had he, maybe the Colorado Avalanche center would have won the Art Ross Trophy as the NHL's scoring leader for the first time in his career.

Instead, it again went to Tampa Bay Lightning forward Nikita Kucherov, who finished with 121 points to MacKinnon's 116 after topping MacKinnon 144-140 to win it last season.

"He would have won the scoring championship if it was a goal of his" former NHL coach Bruce Boudreau said.

LMAOOOOO this is embarassing.

The indirect Kuch disrespect never, ever stops.

That quote is actually hilarious because:

1. Adding 3 games for MacKinnon with his pacing still puts him below Kucherov's total.
2. Kucherov played 1 less game than MacKinnon.

When writers spew drivel like this, the voting makes a bit more sense.

 

[thebeernerd]

Give it to Kuch, dammit.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

That quote is actually hilarious because:

1. Adding 3 games for MacKinnon with his pacing still puts him below Kucherov's total.
2. Kucherov played 1 less game than MacKinnon.

When writers spew drivel like this, the voting makes a bit more sense.

Yeah that's extremely generous language by them. It's dumb to allow the optics of sitting out 3 pointless games to have any affect on the vote

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Thinking this was Kuch year. He’s very meh defensively but he’s so good offensively he’s really lifted his teammates. Don’t think many had them in contention for division lead ( Toronto and Florida much more popular pics ) . If Drai played the whole year maybe he gets the nod but Mcdavid will always be the cloud hanging over him ( unless one leaves / is traded which k doubt ) . Additionally I thought Makar was the more impactful player for most of the year ( vs Mackinnon) .

 

[Matsun]

Remember before last season when The Hockey News ranked Kucherov as the 22nd best player in the league? Yeah the hockey media has no bias against him.

I think Panarin was 39th on that list

 

[WarriorofTime]

If they have to snub Kucherov then they gotta go the goalie hart route. MacKinnon again would just be a bad choice. He doesn’t lead the league in goals, he doesn’t compete for Selkes, there isn’t a really solid foundation to give him the award back to back years.

 

[MVP of West Hollywd]

Polymarket has this as a two man race between Helle and Drai.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Hart voters do love the guy.

Assuming he finishes top three this year, he'll have finishes of 1, 2, 2, 3, 5, 6 and 1, 2 or 3 this year.

That's a better Hart record than guys like Trottier, Bossy, Sakic, Yzerman, Forsberg.

Even Ovechkin only has five top three Hart placements.

When MacKinnon wins a cup it’s because he’s a #Winner. He puts up his stats because it helps the team #Win. He could score even more points if he felt like it but he’s just too busy #Winning.

Kucherov wins two Cups but he’s just one piece of a great overall team. When he puts up stats it’s an indicator of greed and selfishness, a guy who puts his own accomplishments before the good of the team.

 

[DFC]

Lol nobody wants the hart this year!

Let's just toss it in the ocean

I think last year several cases were so strong that it makes this year pale in comparison. Which feels like a goalie year.

 

[nerevarine]

I dont think mack should win but i really dont think a russian player should win either.

Give it to helle or drai imo

 

[x Tame Impala]

Mack's win last year wasn't a robbery. At minimum he was just as worthy as Kucherov. This year it should've gone to a healthy Draisaitl anyway.

I don't know why TBL fans are being so salty. Their guy won 3 Ross trophies which is insanely impressive and they've got the two COVID Cups. MacKinnon had a great season too, get over it.

 

[DFC]

If they have to snub Kucherov then they gotta go the goalie hart route. MacKinnon again would just be a bad choice. He doesn’t lead the league in goals, he doesn’t compete for Selkes, there isn’t a really solid foundation to give him the award back to back years.

His own fan base says Makar has been better this year. I think his case isn't great. Kucherov's is better, but still not great, despite the Art Ross. He actually has had a lot of support this year.

Drai or Helle

 

[GlitchMarner]

When MacKinnon wins a cup it’s because he’s a #Winner. He puts up his stats because it helps the team #Win. He could score even more points if he felt like it but he’s just too busy #Winning.

Kucherov wins two Cups but he’s just one piece of a great overall team. When he puts up stats it’s an indicator of greed and selfishness, a guy who puts his own accomplishments before the good of the team.

I'm a MacKinnon fan, but he does seem to get the sort of love from the media that guys who are good two-way players or "heart-and-soul warriors" get.

Not saying he's bad defensively, but he's primarily an offensive C and he plays with an elite offensive defenseman in Makar. Guys like that usually (always?) don't win the Hart multiple times unless they lead the League in points in at least one Hart season. It's hard to imagine him winning it two years in a row without leading the NHL in scoring or being near the top in goals or Selke voting in either year.