16 point lead for McDavid now over Matthews. That and the Oilers resurgence as a legitimate playoff contender pretty much cements the Hart for McDavid imo.
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I would have picked Matthews two weeks ago but I think it's McDavid now. It's a shame, I wanted to see how many goals Matthews could put up in a full season.
He is making his own case and I still think he will be top 2 in voting and most likely first.
Macheteops
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I agree Matthews had it locked up couple weeks ago I thought but not at this point now
McFlash97
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McDavid walking Huberdeau now. Mode 2 activated like I had predicted. Mains all quiet now. McDavid is taking home all the hardware and now im hoping Leon catches Matthews.
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McDavid deserves to sweep the main hardware again, but I feel like the media decided a month ago that Matthews is winning the Hart.
It doesn’t seem to matter to them that Matthews has had a poor two weeks, scoring no goals, getting 3 points in 4 games, while missing 2 games to bring his total up to 8 (10% of the season).
Meanwhile, the Oilers just keep winning and McDavid is heading to yet another Art Ross along the way.
3 games left and Matthews could very well even miss out on the 60 goals nearly everyone thought he had on lock.
Once again, though it will never happen, please don’t talk about pace and projections again. They’re utterly worthless.
It doesn’t seem to matter to them that Matthews has had a poor two weeks, scoring no goals, getting 3 points in 4 games, while missing 2 games to bring his total up to 8 (10% of the season).
Meanwhile, the Oilers just keep winning and McDavid is heading to yet another Art Ross along the way.
3 games left and Matthews could very well even miss out on the 60 goals nearly everyone thought he had on lock.
Once again, though it will never happen, please don’t talk about pace and projections again. They’re utterly worthless.
I think McDavid might most likely win but then again voters probably watched AM last night and he did very well for a zero counting stat game.
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I've noticed similar, at least based on the TSN/Sportsnet broadcasts whenever the "experts" talk about who should win.
I think as soon as Matthews scored 50 in his last 50, the media basically tuned out and decided at that point in time who they were voting for.
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It’s McDavid. Up to 118 points now.
He played his best two way hockey down the stretch driving the Oilers into the playoffs.
He played his best two way hockey down the stretch driving the Oilers into the playoffs.
Bank Shot
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Nothing would surprise me with how dumb the NHL media is.
These are the guys that voted Alex Ovechkin onto both the 1st and 2nd All-Star teams in the same year....
Pavel Buchnevich
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I'm sure there will be voters that will refuse to put a goalie on their ballot for that reason. As long as it's not spelled out that Hart Trophy doesn't include goalies, goalies shouldn't be out of consideration. Best season wins. Shouldn't be best forward or best defenseman or best goalie. Change the way the awards are done if you want a best in each category.
Pavel Buchnevich
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If Matthews doesn't hit 60, I feel his argument gets really watered down. Maybe unfair, but 60 goals is a big milestone in the league. 58 goals is great and will probably be tops in the league, but being the top goal-scorer usually isn't alone enough when you are 5th in points and 14 points off of first place.
Regardless, I think we are going to get a lot of vote splitting this year with the players ordered in many different orders. May be a matter of certain players ruining the chances of each other.
Regardless, I think we are going to get a lot of vote splitting this year with the players ordered in many different orders. May be a matter of certain players ruining the chances of each other.
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As a Leafs fan, there's no conceivable argument at this point why Matthews should win it due to missed games. If he was healthy he's likely sitting at around 115 points with over 60 goals and likely wins the Hart and is sniffing Art Ross territory but the missed games should cement that he doesn't win it. It's between McDavid and JG IMO.
I stand corrected, you are right. I took a look and of the last 10 hart winners, one was a goalie, one was a rocket (ovie who,was within 4 pts of the art Ross), one was hall who was way ahead of second on his team that led his team to the playoffs (no rocket or art Ross) and 7 of the last 10 hart winners were the art Ross winners who atleast had an 11 point lead on 2nd place. So It seems if you have some sort of,distance in the art Ross race then the mvp is yours, and if your a rocket winner then you should be in single digits of the art Ross winner.
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It is a shame, would have loved to see what Matthews could accomplish in a full 82. If he finishes strong and hits 60 goals, he still has a chance, but that gap is far wider than it would have been with him healthy the whole way.
He does also deserve some props for not risking further injury though, at this stage he knows how important playoff success is.
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I think McDavid won't win the Hart simply due to voter fatigue. He is just too consistent so even an amazing season for 99.9% of players seems pedestrian for him.
They said we have Marner who has been just as good with Matthews hurt. He hasn’t been just as good and he’s missed more games than Matthews this season as opposed to Draisaitl and McDavid who have played a difference of 1 game so if anything Draisaitl and McDavid would be closer together in the Hart race than Marner and Matthews.
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To be fair by his own standards it is a pretty pedestrian year for him. Scoring is up massively over last year and he’s only put up 13 more points in 22 more games.
And yeah I agree he won’t win. I think he’s borderline to finish as a finalist also, the media is all about Matthews and JG at the moment. Matthews hitting 60 is going to be a huge storyline in the media.
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Kinda crazy that a down year has McDavid in the lead for the Art Ross still. I would be surprised if he wins the Hart tbh. I think voter fatigue is a real thing....voters want something new and shiny. Im thinking Huberdeau could win. He has a 26 point lead on the next player on his team. The strength of Gaudreau's line and Matthew's line may take away from their chances.
I think alot of voters have already made up their mind on the new and shiny thing and it's AM.
Macheteops
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Don’t see it with Huberdeau. He’s on a stacked team. Don’t see his argument over McDavid especially if McDavid wins the Ross.
I can get behind a case for Josi or Shesterkins or even Matthews a few weeks ago when it looked like he was a lock for 60
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Huberdeau is on a stacked team, but he still is putting up a ton more points than any other Panther besides Barkov, and Barkov has had to score 24 pts in his last 13 games just to be somewhat close. Huby doesn't play on a line with Barkov either. Huby has had a career year while McDavid has had a down year, I'd say it's a coin toss as to who is MVP of their team between the two.
I think that he has an outside chance to be a finalist but wouldn't be surprised if he was out of the top 5 for Hart voting honestly.
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