NHL All-Time Draft, Take 2(.5)

[Statto]

Brodeaur played much of his career in the low scoring era as well.

He's obviously good, but his stats benefited greatly from his situation. Probably more so than any other goalie in the modern era.

He also had what was probably the best NZ trap of all time in front of him. Good but a touch overrated in my opinion.

 

[Statto]

Lindros spent much of career in the low-scoring era, but his rookie year was the season with the most goals in one year in NHL history I believe. 92-93 was the same year Selanne and Mogilny scored 76 each and between 92-93 and 93-94, Lindros was 16th in total goals. Seven guys had over 100 goals in that span -including Luc Robitaille- and Lemieux scored 86 in 82 games. The early-mid 90's weren't low scoring.

I recognise that but even then as a rookie/sophomore it’s impressive stuff. He did what he did with minimal support and huge pressure following his holdout. Injuries stopped him making the most of what was a monster skill set and package. In general I think he’s underrated but definitely well below the likes of Gretzky and Lemieux. He was a far better player than Mogilny, Selanne and Robitaille though.

I’d take him over Yzerman but not Hasek or Jagr. He was box office. Considering how many concussions he suffered he had a remarkable, if unfulfilled, career IMO. That hit by Stevens was a disgrace even at the time, the guy was a headhunting POS.

 

[Soapdodger]

I pick Pavel Bure.
The guy was such an incredible scorer during a very low scoring era.
With todays rules the guy could crack 100 goals in a single season if paired with a decent center.

 

[apadilla]

I'll go with Ken Dryden. He stole a couple cups in the early 70's, and ended up with around 6 total. When Phil Esposito first saw Dryden in net, he asked "who's the giraffe?" hehehe. At 6'4, he might of been the first great big goalie.

Pronger would be a good 2nd choice, along with Guy Lafleur.

And with this pick, I'd stay away from Bobby Hull.

 

[UnSandvich]

Voting is updated, i'll give it one more day, so have fun folks, and excellent voting for the most part

 

[Statto]

Voting is updated, i'll give it one more day, so have fun folks, and excellent voting for the most part

Thanks for doing this, some summer fun that should not become a big argument although I’m sure we will somehow manage it on here.

I’m surprised Dionne isn’t miles ahead and that’s without factoring in his tenure as a King, but there we go. Fools the lot of them ….

Seriously though your efforts are appreciated.

 

[kingsfan28]

Uhhh…View attachment 576788

I’m watching it right now too

Brother IS THAT YOU?

That's all of us after Al Murray announces the pick.

 

[Herby]

Should we gamble and hope John Zeiler makes it to the next round or just grab our guy now?

 

[Cianide]

He was a far better player than Mogilny, Selanne and Robitaille though.

Ouch. He was better than Selanne? Come on, the others I can see, but Selanne had a long, hall of fame career. Guy was lights out. Lindros was great for a time, but then it all ended. He had size too, which is a factor and which helped his case.

 

[Statto]

Ouch. He was better than Selanne? Come on, the others I can see, but Selanne had a long, hall of fame career. Guy was lights out. Lindros was great for a time, but then it all ended. He had size too, which is a factor and which helped his case.

Concussions did for Lindros. I take peak Lindros over Selanne every day of the week because you can build an entire roster around him. Selanne had a great career but we are talking ‘peak’.

 

[Herby]

Concussions did for Lindros. I take peak Lindros over Selanne every day of the week because you can build an entire roster around him. Selanne had a great career but we are talking ‘peak’.

I agree, 88 in his prime quite easily over Selanne. Prime Lindros was something else to watch. The combo of size, skill, speed and toughness was just unfair.

I remember seeing a Kings/Flyers game the first year at Staples and Lindros absolutely destroyed poor Frantisek Kaberle with one of the biggest hits I've ever seen. I thought Kaberle was going to go through the boards.

 

[johnjm22]

Peak Lindros probably edges out peak Selanne, but it's not a huge margin.

Lindros career high PPG is 1.57, Selanne's career high PPG is 1.57.

Selanne had a 76 goal season, and 3 100pt seasons. Lindros had 1 100pt season.

During Lindros's peak years (93/94 to 96/97), I'd say he was a bit more of force than Selanne's peak years which were sort of spread out through out various parts of his career.

 

[Statto]

Peak Lindros probably edges out peak Selanne, but it's not a huge margin.

Lindros career high PPG is 1.57, Selanne's career high PPG is 1.57.

Selanne had a 76 goal season, and 3 100pt seasons. Lindros had 1 100pt season.

During Lindros's peak years (93/94 to 96/97), I'd say he was a bit more of force than Selanne's peak years which were sort of spread out through out various parts of his career.

It’s more than PPG. Lindros was a play driving wrecking ball, that played with pretty average players. He made Renberg look elite.

 

[Soapdodger]

Peak Lindros probably edges out peak Selanne, but it's not a huge margin.

Lindros career high PPG is 1.57, Selanne's career high PPG is 1.57.

Selanne had a 76 goal season, and 3 100pt seasons. Lindros had 1 100pt season.

During Lindros's peak years (93/94 to 96/97), I'd say he was a bit more of force than Selanne's peak years which were sort of spread out through out various parts of his career.

I bet you have never seen Lindros play.
Yes, Selänne scored more goals but a peak Lindros totally dominated games.
The guy was just unreal physically and was skilled, too.
Selänne was great but more one-dimensional and therefore Lindros a way better player

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I bet you have never seen Lindros play.
Yes, Selänne scored more goals but a peak Lindros totally dominated games.
The guy was just unreal physically and was skilled, too.
Selänne was great but more one-dimensional and therefore Lindros a way better player

Jesus Christ the things that remind you are old, someone telling someone else they never saw Lindros play........true or not, that just reminds me how freaking old I am......

 

[Lt Dan]

Draft Jon Sim next

 

[johnjm22]

I bet you have never seen Lindros play.
Yes, Selänne scored more goals but a peak Lindros totally dominated games.
The guy was just unreal physically and was skilled, too.
Selänne was great but more one-dimensional and therefore Lindros a way better player

I watched him play plenty.

As I said, I think he edges out Selenne.

Thanks.

 

[KINGS17]

Peak Lindros probably edges out peak Selanne, but it's not a huge margin.

Lindros career high PPG is 1.57, Selanne's career high PPG is 1.57.

Selanne had a 76 goal season, and 3 100pt seasons. Lindros had 1 100pt season.

During Lindros's peak years (93/94 to 96/97), I'd say he was a bit more of force than Selanne's peak years which were sort of spread out through out various parts of his career.

Selanne in Winnipeg when healthy, and in Anaheim with Paul Kariya, was pretty damn good. That strike season probably extended his career a number of years. He had a chance to take a year off, get healthy, and came back with two of his best seasons after the strike.

Should we gamble and hope John Zeiler makes it to the next round or just grab our guy now?

Only if he comes with a case of Windex to help him clean the glass.