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DKH said:
The Giants should be adding Sanders to grow with Nabors

Taking Hunter and having these two deal with Russell Wilson is a good way for Dabol to get fired
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Unless they’re rattled by the Daniel Jones debacle and want to build a solid team and add the QB once they find one they’re comfortable with. I’m not a Sanders believer. IF the Pats didn’t land Maye last season would you want them selecting him at 4 this season? I’d pass
 
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LJReborn said:
Guessing it's all this year? Could even be some next season, will be interestng to the dead cap hits if needed
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I bet it's basically the same deal as Davante Adams', just has a "real" 3rd year instead of a void year. $12M signing bonus. Year 1 salary fully guaranteed ($8M), Year 2 salary partially guaranteed (less than 50%), no guaranteed money in Year 3, so he's probably here 2 years.
 
Oates2Neely said:
Unless they’re rattled by the Daniel Jones debacle and want to build a solid team and add the QB once they find one they’re comfortable with. I’m not a Sanders believer. IF the Pats didn’t land Maye last season would you want them selecting him at 4 this season? I’d pass
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There is a lot written they will take Hunter and trade back in to get a QB

then you explore trading 4 for someone hot for Sanders
 
Giants fans are going insane over Russ signing.

They all want Sanders. I wonder if that organization will seriously f*** up not picking him that much.


I need Hunter here!
 
GatorMike said:
I'm not sure that team exists.
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Then I take Campbell or Warren or Jeanty or Walker

There is going to be really good players here

I’d take Campbell and have one of 5 OL positions fortified

He’s a tackle reading the folks I consider the brightest on this stuff, however, even if he was an elite G you fortify the interior with Campbell, Bradbury, Onwenu and Josh has a record of dealing with edge defenders
 
Mione134 said:
Giants fans are going insane over Russ signing.

They all want Sanders. I wonder if that organization will seriously f*** up not picking him that much.


I need Hunter here!
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They will love Hunter and can come back in to first

Somehow it will work out well for us
 
DKH said:
They will love Hunter and can come back in to first

Somehow it will work out well for us
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Unfortunately the coach and GM only care about this year and their jobs. The funny thing is they still have garbage QBs and may still finish last in the division.
 
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DKH said:
I kind of am but i am a glass half full guy
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With Hunter and Carter off the board, their choices would be:

* Will Campbell, who may or may not be able to play LT at a high level. My guess is that he'd be better than Vederian Lowe, but something well short of a premier LT. I'm sure he'd be a great LG... but you typically don't need to use the 4th pick in the draft to find a really good guard.

* Armand Membou, who's athletic, but he's also a bit undersized, and he's exclusively played RT in college. No idea if he can play LT.

* Ashton Jeanty, who's really talented and really fun, but who would be wasted playing behind a pourous OL. Go watch his game against Penn State to see what he'd be like here.

* Tyler Warren, who'd damn near have to be Gronk reincarnated to be worth the 4th pick in the draft. I like him, but he's not Gronk.

* Mason Graham, who is not only nowhere near as big as he was listed while at Michigan, but he plays the same position as your two of your highest-paid players.

* Jaylon Walker, who might be too small to be an Edge, and doesn't seem to have the instincts to play off the ball.
 
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Fantastic pod cast with former Chiefs OT Jake Long evaluating the OL

He looooooves Armand Membou

Listening to him (and host) talk about Dante Scarnecchia is amazing. He never played for Dante but apparently in the world of linemen this guy is a god.

If you are driving around or going for a walk this is a great podcast I think if you follow the draft will find interesting
 
GatorMike said:
With Hunter and Carter off the board, their choices would be:

* Will Campbell, who may or may not be able to play LT at a high level. My guess is that he'd be better than Vederian Lowe, but something well short of a premier LT. I'm sure he'd be a great LG... but you typically don't need to use the 4th pick in the draft to find a really good guard.

* Armand Membou, who's athletic, but he's also a bit undersized, and he's exclusively played RT in college. No idea if he can play LT.

* Ashton Jeanty, who's really talented and really fun, but who would be wasted playing behind a pourous OL. Go watch his game against Penn State to see what he'd be like here.

* Tyler Warren, who'd damn near have to be Gronk reincarnated to be worth the 4th pick in the draft. I like him, but he's not Gronk.

* Mason Graham, who is not only nowhere near as big as he was listed while at Michigan, but he plays the same position as your two of your highest-paid players.

* Jaylon Walker, who might be too small to be an Edge, and doesn't seem to have the instincts to play off the ball.
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I cannot see us taking Jeanty, we already have 2 RB's.
I like Warren and Graham, but with the signing or Milton Williams and if Barmore is back, we really to not need Graham.
Hard pass on Campbell, he will be a guard.
Walker will not go in the top 10.
Membou is too risky at 4, we need a for sure player that can play next year and be elite.
Best bet is to trade down with either Vegas or the Saints, get an extra second round pick and their first.
Take one of OT / TE or WR, best player available.
 
EverettMike said:
I actually think they're fine because if Sanders is there at 4 I believe they can trade back for a good package.
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Two issues here.

1. What team is moving up to take him? The Raiders already went out and got a QB that they're trying to sign to an extension. Maybe New Orleans at #9, but I'm skeptical that they'd be looking to move up given their cap issues. Pittsburgh might be interested, but do you really want move all the way back to #21?

2. Even if a team like New Orleans was motivated to move up for Sanders, why would they spend extra draft capital to go to #4 when they know all they have to do is get ahead of the Jets at #7?
 
If they are forced to stay at 4 because nobody wants to trade up (let’s say teams don't actually like Sanders and Hunter + Carter are gone) my current preference order is:

1) Mason Graham- he has versatility to play all over the line in a 3-4, really dominant player short arms be damned. Unsurprising he is an accomplished wrestler too. Immediately fixes the run defense, something both Barmore and Williams have some question marks with

2) Membou/Campbell depending on who Scar best thinks could be a LT

3) Colston Loveland- not a good blocker but I like him as a weapon at the NFL level more than Warren.




Also I need Desmond Watson in my life. 6-6 464, 36 reps on the bench. 25 inch vertical at 464! My NT king! Sure, I’ll be absolutely terrified of him dying on the field his entire career but he’s a guy you need to double! Hilarious highlight reel. Ripping the ball from running backs like it’s nothing, holding QB up in the air to get the whistle
 
GatorMike said:
Two issues here.

1. What team is moving up to take him? The Raiders already went out and got a QB that they're trying to sign to an extension. Maybe New Orleans at #9, but I'm skeptical that they'd be looking to move up given their cap issues. Pittsburgh might be interested, but do you really want move all the way back to #21?

2. Even if a team like New Orleans was motivated to move up for Sanders, why would they spend extra draft capital to go to #4 when they know all they have to do is get ahead of the Jets at #7?
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I don't really know how to to respond to this because you sort of made my case for me.

There are teams that will want Sanders.
 
CDJ said:
If they are forced to stay at 4 because nobody wants to trade up (let’s say teams don't actually like Sanders and Hunter + Carter are gone) my current preference order is:

1) Mason Graham- he has versatility to play all over the line in a 3-4, really dominant player short arms be damned. Unsurprising he is an accomplished wrestler too. Immediately fixes the run defense, something both Barmore and Williams have some question marks with

2) Membou/Campbell depending on who Scar best thinks could be a LT

3) Colston Loveland- not a good blocker but I like him as a weapon at the NFL level more than Warren.




Also I need Desmond Watson in my life. 6-6 464, 36 reps on the bench. 25 inch vertical at 464! My NT king! Sure, I’ll be absolutely terrified of him dying on the field his entire career but he’s a guy you need to double! Hilarious highlight reel. Ripping the ball from running backs like it’s nothing, holding QB up in the air to get the whistle
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If you bring in Desmond Watson, you wouldn't have to worry about the tush push being banned. Give him the ball and let physics happen. :laugh:
 
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