Next years cap/roster

[Tuna99]

You do get the gold star for messing up everyone’s names though , JD1 was right on that.

I’ll call you “Texas Holdem’-Pet”

 

[Golden_Jet]

I’ll call you “Texas Holdem’-Pet”

Sure, whatever that means

 

[GCK]

Can we please get back on topic. We need an @UglyPuckling spreadsheeet

 

[Inf4mous0ne]

Rispek!

I blame Swayman for upping it to $8,25

 

[Tuna99]

Sure, whatever that means

You know what it means Texas.

 

[Golden_Jet]

You know what it means Texas.

Haven’t the foggiest,

 

[Cosmix]

I'd offer an additional year to Giroux if he goes down to $4 million aav. I'd love it if Ullmark took $7 million aav for 6 years.

Kleven has to have a helluva a rookie year to get more than JBD (who is currently better than Kleven).

Hoping Sogaard can be a back up next year so we don't have Forsberg's $2 million on the books (unless Ullmark expresses wanting to keep Forsberg there)

Ullmark is not making roster decisions.

 

[bicboi64]

Ullmark is not making roster decisions.

I mean if the dude came here, and ended up signing an extension because he's comfortable here (possibly in part) because his friend is here too, it'd make sense for Staios to take that into consideration.

Having said that, Ullmark is a professional, and if Forbserg has an awful season or is good enough for an extension that we can't afford, he'll understand if Forsberg isn't back with the team next year

 

[Cosmix]

All this talk and no spreadsheet?

 

[Xspyrit]

Maybe in the next life. For now you’ll just have to try and fix the spelling on the internet for the 5 billion people on earth.

You might not like it, as a fact checker I have to let you know that we’re a little bit more than that…

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

It is too early to project the backup goalie. There is so much up in the air, with Forsberg needing to perform well this year to earn an extension, and Sogaard not looking great so far when recalled in the NHL.

Sogaard is on 1-way money next year. So it's probably his spot to lose. If he can be a good backup for Ottawa for a single season at 775k, that would save Ottawa from having to go out and pay more for a veteran in that spot.

 

[Good in Osgoode]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Chabot eventually traded if there's a hockey deal out there. If Norris plays well enough then same thing, but that seems less likely.

Chabot & Norris are certainly the players under the microscope this year as they combine for $16m per season. That's a lot of cheddar.
I think we all are pulling for these 2 players to stay healthy and to bounce back to levels that we have seen in the past.

The reality is that neither of these players are likely to justify ever making $8m per season unless that happens.
They are both currently overpaid by around $2m to $3m per season and as such, it is going to be difficult to trade either of them without taking back a bad contract, retention or adding picks & prospects to the deal. None of which is desirable.

I like the idea of cutting back Chabot's minutes because in season's past, you could see that he was just spent a lot of games because he was playing 25 minutes a game in all situations. Cut it back to around 20 minutes with a solid partner (be it Jensen or Zub) and that will let him be more effective.

For Norris, he seems to be most effective with Batherson and it looks like they have back on PP1 in his one-timer spot.
Hopefully, he can get back to scoring a bunch of goals from that spot and get back scoring 30+ goals and just being a solid 2-way 2C.

By maximizing these 2 players as best as you can, you effectively raise their trade value, if that is the direction the team wants to take.
Freeing up $8m would allow you to go out and get two solid players (think Perron & Jensen), and/or to spread the money out to other players like Pinto & Greig in the coming years.

With Sanderson & Ullmark now joining the $8m/season club, that is 6 players on the Sens combining for close to $50m/season, as of next year.
Makes it tough to fill out the remaining ~16 spots with well over half of your payroll is already spent.

 

[UglyPuckling]

Can we please get back on topic. We need an @UglyPuckling spreadsheeet

Here you go.

Please note the colour coding which conveys status info as follows:

Orange - These players are not under contract next year but have been inserted as “placeholders"

Blue - ELCs this season that will be RFAs next season. So, these numbers are low.

Yellow - New players that have been added to the roster this year.

If people have some ideas on replacement players for next year, or what our soon to be RFAs (blue cells) will get paid, I can likely generate another spreadsheet with those edits in a few days.

 

[GCK]

Here you go.

Please note the colour coding which conveys status info as follows:

Orange - These players are not under contract next year but have been inserted as “placeholders"

Blue - ELCs this season that will be RFAs next season. So, these numbers are low.

Yellow - New players that have been added to the roster this year.

If people have some ideas on replacement players for next year, or what our soon to be RFAs (blue cells) will get paid, I can likely generate another spreadsheet with those edits in a few days.

View attachment 915637

That’s awesome. I think you can add Ostapchuk and Yakemchuk in pen.

 

[UglyPuckling]

That’s awesome. I think you can add Ostapchuk and Yakemchuk in pen.

I have Ostapchuk’s salary in there already as the 13F. I can move him to 4C. I focus mostly on the numbers.

I can put Yakemchuk in as 3RD.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I have Ostapchuk’s salary in there already as the 13F. I can move him to 4C. I focus mostly on the numbers.

I can put Yakemchuk in as 3RD.

UllMark 8.25

 

[UglyPuckling]

That’s awesome. I think you can add Ostapchuk and Yakemchuk in pen.

OK. Here’s the revised spreadsheet with Ostapchuk & Yakemchuk included.

UllMark 8.25

OK noted. See below.

 

[SensontheRush]

So I gather we are sitting pretty good right now with the cap.

 

[UglyPuckling]

So I gather we are sitting pretty good right now with the cap.

Kleven & Grieg will be RFAs next year, so those numbers are low. However, we might end up with a less expensive backup goalie.

Also, Giroux and his $6.5 m is still in this 2025-26 spreadsheet, so there could be a change there. I’ve kept him there as a placeholder.

So, in summary, yes it looks OK to me so far unless there’s some surprises.

 

[GCK]

Kleven & Grieg will be RFAs next year, so those numbers are low. However, we might end up with a less expensive backup goalie.

So, in summary, yes it looks OK to me so far unless there’s some surprises.

Gregor RFA - Giroux UFA

 

[Silky Johnson]

OK. Here’s the revised spreadsheet with Ostapchuk & Yakemchuk included.

View attachment 915642


OK noted. See below.

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Greig at 3. Kleven at 1.75. Haliday as the 13th. Forsberg jettisoned into the Sun and either Forsberg or Merilainen as the backup. Maybe cousins at 1M.

 

[UglyPuckling]

Gregor RFA - Giroux UFA

Yes. I dropped Gregor and replaced him with Ostapchuk in the latest version. I guessed that’s what you wanted.

Yes Giroux is a UFA next year, but I kept him (and his salary) in as a placeholder.

There’s probably going to be some changes, but I’ll wait a bit to see if some kind of consensus forms and include those edits in the next version.

 

[UglyPuckling]

Greig at 3. Kleven at 1.75. Haliday as the 13th. Forsberg jettisoned into the Sun and either Forsberg or Merilainen as the backup. Maybe cousins at 1M.

See revised spreadsheet below. We are close to the cap ceiling now.

 

[DrEasy]

Nitpick: Giroux should be highlighted in orange.

 

[LiseL]

Is finding a name to consistently incorrectly spell a known disease or is it unique to you?


I won't be surprised to see Claude go year to year a fair bit under 5.

Wouldn't it be great if he took a similar deal as Spezza did with the Leafs? Around $1M if I remember correctly. A girl can dream. I guess it depends on the numbers he produces this season. Hope he accepts $3.5-$4M going forward. I think it'll depend on how this season goes. If we make the playoffs and make some noise, maybe he recognizes that SS will need some cap space to acquire the missing pieces. That's what Alfie did at one point (took less to have a better team).