Next Possible Rangers Coach

[rabinsurance]

I watched Quinn coach the Monsters in Cleveland for a few years. Here are my observations about him. He is a good educator with young players. He got a very talent-challenged team to the playoffs in 2011. He was very tough on lazy, underachieving players (Ryan Stoa, Patrick Rissmiller). He is very direct when asked a question. Don't know how the press there will react to him, but I think with a younger team, he would work very well. He dealt with 2 big adversities in his HC tenure. His 1st season, Colorado signed AHL vet Darren Haydar to a 2 way contract. He thought he would get a shot at the NHL, Colorado wanted him as a veteran AHL-er. When a younger player was called up early, Haydar pouted like a baby and ripped apart the room. The Avs told Quinn to keep playing Haydar, even though he should have been released. The team was competitive, and they gave the baby a token game in the NHL. Quinn didn't want him back, so he was released from the 2nd year of his deal. His second season, the playoff year, Colorado had signed a Norwegian player named Jonas Holos. He fully expected that he would be able to play for Norway in the WC in May, and was hugely disappointed that he had to stay in Cleveland for the playoffs. This caused huge problems, because the Avs basically said to the player play and shut up. and to Quinn play him no matter what. After the team lost in game 7, Holos skipped the exit interviews (reportedly he had his luggage at the game), and Quinn was furious. The Avs did nothing, except allow him to play in the WC. When Holos didn't make the Avs the next season, Quinn refused to let him come to Cleveland (the clueless Avs organization couldn't figure out why), so he was loaned back to Europe. In each situation, he made the best of a terrible situation to keep the room together. I hope he does well with the Rangers. I can tell you this, I would love to have him back here instead of the idiot Madden who now "coaches" the team.

 

[haohmaru]

I'll never understand why anyone brings up the amount of money a coach makes like it matters in the slightest bit, especially in a market like NY with owners who aren't complete cheapskates like those in Ottowa and Carolina.

I think Quinn will do well with the transition and direction this team is headed. Should be night and day difference from AV.

100%. The Rangers are the most valuable franchise in the NHL. I don’t think Dolan is worried about anyone’s contract - least of all whoever the new coach is.

 

[GordonGecko]

My problems are two fold.

the guy didn’t want to take the job. We should not have to beg a no name college coach to come coach the New York Rangers.

Wondering if he is a big time Bawston sports guy who always hated any team NYC related. If so that could explain his hesitancy to come to the dark side

 

[Tawnos]

I agree.

I know what I want, but I legitimately have no inkling as to whether or not this guy is it or isn't it.

Plus, although he’s going to bring most of his stuff with him, a fresh start means he can tweak and change the things he hasn’t been happy with in Boston. So it’s not like he will be the same exact coach here that he was there.

Honestly, I’m just excited about change. Everything got stale on this team over the last two years. Now, we are in an incredibly fascinating period of time to be following the Rangers. Quinn is part of that.

 

[Tawnos]

Wondering if he is a big time Bawston sports guy who always hated any team NYC related. If so that could explain his hesitancy to come to the dark side

Could be that. Could be that his wife has a very rewarding job she loves. Could be that he has some responsibilities in the Boston area that are difficult to leave.

Could be a million different things.

I didn’t want to move for my last company further than 3 hours from Charlotte. They wanted me to move to Nashville. They made it worth my while. And my initial hesitance did not stop me from doing a damn good job when I was there.

 

[Polar Bear]

100%. The Rangers are the most valuable franchise in the NHL. I don’t think Dolan is worried about anyone’s contract - least of all whoever the new coach is.

One of the pros of him as an owner. Money is never an issue, especially on things that have no relation to the cap.

 

[Mikos87]

I watched Quinn coach the Monsters in Cleveland for a few years. Here are my observations about him. He is a good educator with young players. He got a very talent-challenged team to the playoffs in 2011. He was very tough on lazy, underachieving players (Ryan Stoa, Patrick Rissmiller). He is very direct when asked a question. Don't know how the press there will react to him, but I think with a younger team, he would work very well. He dealt with 2 big adversities in his HC tenure. His 1st season, Colorado signed AHL vet Darren Haydar to a 2 way contract. He thought he would get a shot at the NHL, Colorado wanted him as a veteran AHL-er. When a younger player was called up early, Haydar pouted like a baby and ripped apart the room. The Avs told Quinn to keep playing Haydar, even though he should have been released. The team was competitive, and they gave the baby a token game in the NHL. Quinn didn't want him back, so he was released from the 2nd year of his deal. His second season, the playoff year, Colorado had signed a Norwegian player named Jonas Holos. He fully expected that he would be able to play for Norway in the WC in May, and was hugely disappointed that he had to stay in Cleveland for the playoffs. This caused huge problems, because the Avs basically said to the player play and shut up. and to Quinn play him no matter what. After the team lost in game 7, Holos skipped the exit interviews (reportedly he had his luggage at the game), and Quinn was furious. The Avs did nothing, except allow him to play in the WC. When Holos didn't make the Avs the next season, Quinn refused to let him come to Cleveland (the clueless Avs organization couldn't figure out why), so he was loaned back to Europe. In each situation, he made the best of a terrible situation to keep the room together. I hope he does well with the Rangers. I can tell you this, I would love to have him back here instead of the idiot Madden who now "coaches" the team.

Oh I liked reading this. Thanks for sharing.

Alain for his brilliance did not hold players accountable, and it lead to a cultural erosion. Gone are the values of showing up and working hard to guys that were ready to mail it in.

I will say this, the culture change was a slow one, that really fell off the cliff without MSL.

 

[Mikos87]

One of the pros of him as an owner. Money is never an issue, especially on things that have no relation to the cap.

Hey I frequent an establishment owned by an another NHL owner, and my buddy is childhood friends with another. For all the slack some of you give JD, he's a class act.

One of those other owners has his GM and Hockey Ops guy more worried about him then running their team. The other dude blew millions trying to counteract something that was working well before getting a case of the regretzkies.

 

[Polar Bear]

Hey I frequent an establishment owned by an another NHL owner, and my buddy is childhood friends with another. For all the slack some of you give JD, he's a class act.

One of those other owners has his GM and Hockey Ops guy more worried about him then running their team. The other dude blew millions trying to counteract something that was working well before getting a case of the regretzkies.

Unpopular opinon, but I agree with you, though more so on the Rangers side of things. JD is far from a perfect owner (who is?), but he spends money and lets the hockey guys do their damn job. Not much more you can ask for, especially when compared to other owners.

 

[haohmaru]

I don't know shit about Quinn. I know he's not AV, though, so I'm fine with it.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

JD has been fine after the salary cap because the Rangers have been fine, unlike the Knicks which have been a huge mess forever. He keeps his hands off when things are going well and he has people he trusts, which is a big part of management. I'm worried about him if the first phases of the rebuild don't work, we have a bad team and a bunch of Ryan Stromes.

 

[RangerBoy]

Amid incessant rumors that Boston University coach David Quinn has been chosen as the new head coach of the New York Rangers, a source with direct knowledge of the inner workings of the Terrier hockey program said Saturday afternoon that Quinn is in New York, and BU officials expect him to be named to the Blueshirts job early this week.

Boston University’s David Quinn reportedly in line to become Rangers coach - The Boston Globe

The final step is meeting with Dolan. Fizdale met with Dolan before being named Knicks coach. When AV was hired in 2013,someone saw him on a flight from Ottawa to NY and tweeted it. He flew into NY to meet with Dolan and another MSG exec and the news broke AV was the Rangers coach later that night. Brooks wasn't sure if Quinn and Dolan meeting had/has happened.

 

[Irishguy42]

Would imagine he'd meet with Dolan either this weekend or on Monday, while Gorton is flying back.

Induction ceremony is going to a JD & The Straight Shot show and not leaving.

 

[eco's bones]

I watched Quinn coach the Monsters in Cleveland for a few years. Here are my observations about him. He is a good educator with young players. He got a very talent-challenged team to the playoffs in 2011. He was very tough on lazy, underachieving players (Ryan Stoa, Patrick Rissmiller). He is very direct when asked a question. Don't know how the press there will react to him, but I think with a younger team, he would work very well. He dealt with 2 big adversities in his HC tenure. His 1st season, Colorado signed AHL vet Darren Haydar to a 2 way contract. He thought he would get a shot at the NHL, Colorado wanted him as a veteran AHL-er. When a younger player was called up early, Haydar pouted like a baby and ripped apart the room. The Avs told Quinn to keep playing Haydar, even though he should have been released. The team was competitive, and they gave the baby a token game in the NHL. Quinn didn't want him back, so he was released from the 2nd year of his deal. His second season, the playoff year, Colorado had signed a Norwegian player named Jonas Holos. He fully expected that he would be able to play for Norway in the WC in May, and was hugely disappointed that he had to stay in Cleveland for the playoffs. This caused huge problems, because the Avs basically said to the player play and shut up. and to Quinn play him no matter what. After the team lost in game 7, Holos skipped the exit interviews (reportedly he had his luggage at the game), and Quinn was furious. The Avs did nothing, except allow him to play in the WC. When Holos didn't make the Avs the next season, Quinn refused to let him come to Cleveland (the clueless Avs organization couldn't figure out why), so he was loaned back to Europe. In each situation, he made the best of a terrible situation to keep the room together. I hope he does well with the Rangers. I can tell you this, I would love to have him back here instead of the idiot Madden who now "coaches" the team.

Thank you for sharing.

 

[Alluckks]

Wondering if he is a big time Bawston sports guy who always hated any team NYC related. If so that could explain his hesitancy to come to the dark side

The guy was literally so close to becoming a successful NHL player - a dream of any person that grows up playing as much hockey as these guys do - but had that stripped away from him by an unfortunate debilitating disease. He tried to make somewhat of a comeback and worked hard at it, and in the end was offered a pro contract and tryout basis from a few teams. He chose the Rangers and the Rangers chose him. It was the first pro contract he ever signed. After that short stint he played one season for Cleveland in the IHL, then went towards coaching.

I don't think you forget what team chose you and what team you chose yourself for your only ever pro contract - especially in light of the circumstances. The Rangers have been touted for decades as being nothing but a good organization to their players.

My point is, I guess, I disagree with your guess as to his hesitancy. I think he just really liked his hometown, liked how he settled there with his wife, knew for certain what his future held there, and really did like his job. It is not an easy decision to just go do something else when you have all that. It takes time, you have to really think on it. I don't think his hesitancy has anything to do with the Rangers.

 

[Crease]

Sucks to BU

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Sucks to BU

 

[stan the caddy]

This guy's resume compared to former coaches they've brought in might as well be blank. Definitely an outside the box hire.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

It was never going to be Keefe. Not sure why so many thought he was a legit candidate.

can you explain why it was never going to be Keefe?

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

can you explain why it was never going to be Keefe?

Why did you want Keefe so bad? Because of the hype?

I’d like you to explain what makes Keefe a better candidate than Quinn. What is the difference between their systems and styles that makes you so convinced that Keefe is superior? Instead of “wahhhhh I didn’t get the guy I want!!!!!”.

Thanks.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

can you explain why it was never going to be Keefe?

You must not be familiar with his back story

Go look up the story. It may not have been the main reason, but I’d be shocked if it wasn’t a contributing factor

 

[Gresch04]

Tampa’s empty net D is too Rangers like. Will burn them this post season if they don’t get more aggressive.

 

[free0717]

100%. The Rangers are the most valuable franchise in the NHL. I don’t think Dolan is worried about anyone’s contract - least of all whoever the new coach is.

What bothers me about this coach "Is his heart into coaching the New York Rangers" or is it about taking an offer $$$ that you cant walk away from.

 

[Irishguy42]

What bothers me about this coach "Is his heart into coaching the New York Rangers" or is it about taking an offer $$$ that you cant walk away from.

They're not entirely mutually exclusive.

He loves being at BU. Thought that was going to be his long-term home, and probably would have been. Dude seems to really love hockey, especially since his playing career was cut short.

But eventually, even if you really love what you do, there will always be a $ value that will make you want to pick your things up and do what you love in a better place. Any career, really.

Quinn never made the NHL as a head coach. Now, he will. Rangers reportedly had to up their offer twice. That's how much he loved coaching at BU.

I don't doubt Quinn will put his heart into coaching the Rangers.

 

[Tawnos]

What bothers me about this coach "Is his heart into coaching the New York Rangers" or is it about taking an offer $$$ that you cant walk away from.

There are people in this world who put their heart into what they're doing simply because that's what they're doing.