News & Notes XXIII: Brindy Beats the Team Into Shape

[Boom Boom Apathy]

When did Puljujarvi join a boy band?

 

[Canes]

When did Puljujarvi join a boy band?

FinnSYNC

 

[CandyCanes]

FinnSYNC

That’s worth a like

 

[Wolfpuck]

They are doing the Canes season preview on the NHL Network right now. They interviewed Rod as part of the preview.

I was not very impressed with his answers on how to fix some of the most glaring problems: scoring, goaltending, overtime. Basically...try harder.

The players will be kept in cages within the bowels of PNC Arena and must play well if they want to see sunlight and breathe free air.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

They are doing the Canes season preview on the NHL Network right now. They interviewed Rod as part of the preview.

I was not very impressed with his answers on how to fix some of the most glaring problems: scoring, goaltending, overtime. Basically...try harder.

With his 2nd leading scorer having a beer gut, maybe that’s a good thing.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

The players will be kept in cages within the bowels of PNC Arena and must play well if they want to see sunlight and breathe free air.

So be it.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Well, they've narrowed down the goal songs to 8, and... ooof.

Goal Song Fan Vote

Go vote for whatever garbage song you can stand.

(It's basically got to be the Petey Pablo, IMHO. It's the only option that doesn't suck.)

There’s a whole other thread on this started a day or 2 ago . Age catching up with you Hank?

 

[bleedgreen]

That’s been my concern with RBA as coach. He’s very well respected and for good reason. The boys love him because he’s a “players coach” and cares about them.

Does he know how to coach? Can he x’s and o’s it up when he has to? Like minja said it can’t be all..... “try harder, I did”. Practice and game work level expectations are great but it takes more than that. I get giving him a chance but it’s always been painful listening to him speak when they interview him during the games. Not a cerebral approach.

“We gotta work harder.....you know?”

 

[Navin R Slavin]

There’s a whole other thread on this started a day or 2 ago . Age catching up with you Hank?

Yes.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yes.

Welcome to the club!!!

 

[Novacane]

That’s been my concern with RBA as coach. He’s very well respected and for good reason. The boys love him because he’s a “players coach” and cares about them.

Does he know how to coach? Can he x’s and o’s it up when he has to? Like minja said it can’t be all..... “try harder, I did”. Practice and game work level expectations are great but it takes more than that. I get giving him a chance but it’s always been painful listening to him speak when they interview him during the games. Not a cerebral approach.

“We gotta work harder.....you know?”

They just need to put a gym in the locker room. They’ll get the messa-

Oh

 

[Canes]

Bill Peters was apparently lauded as a good (if not brilliant) X's and O's type of guy and that didn't seem to do much (other than fancy stats), so perhaps Brindy can motivate them to succeed a la Reggie Dunlop:
"All right, let's show 'em what we got, guys! Get out there on the ice and let 'em know you're there. Get that f***in' stick in their side. Let 'em know you're there!"

 

[MinJaBen]

Right now I’m just hoping we somehow pull off a Vegas-lite with all the changes and Rod pulls a Gallant-lite where his system is effort and speed.

We’ll see I guess.

 

[Stickpucker]

Well if things go badly with Rod we may see Velluci quick like.

 

[MinJaBen]

Well if things go badly with Rod we may see Velluci quick like.

No way they don’t give him the full year. His number is hanging in the rafters. If he were some rookie head coach with no attachment to the organization, maybe he get pulled early if things start badly. Maybe.

 

[Dishface]

Bill Peters was apparently lauded as a good (if not brilliant) X's and O's type of guy and that didn't seem to do much (other than fancy stats), so perhaps Brindy can motivate them to succeed a la Reggie Dunlop:
"All right, let's show 'em what we got, guys! Get out there on the ice and let 'em know you're there. Get that f***in' stick in their side. Let 'em know you're there!"

"Teuvo, stop crawling on the damn ice!"

 

[tarheelhockey]

I’m not quite so worried about Rod as an X’s and O’s guy. For one thing, I think we overestimate how much that stuff really impacts an NHL team. In the grind of the season there aren’t dramatic changes in strategy from night to night, and in-game changes seem to be largely a myth we make up as fans. And I think Rod’s been around the game and around coaches enough to know it by now. He’s run the PP, he played a ton of PK in his day. There’s no reason he should have issues with that part of the game if he’s an intelligent hockey mind.

What worries me is the game-management aspect. Matching lines isn’t easy when you’re up against a Babcock or Gallant. Balancing out all the little competing factors to make every decision is flat-out difficult even for very experienced coaches. And there’s a soft science to getting good chemistry out of your players. Knowing when to give up on a line, getting buy-in from guys who are having their ice time cut, knowing when to give a rookie his shot, that kind of stuff. For someone who’s never been on the hot seat before, all we can do is just pray that he’s naturally good at it.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

What worries me is the game-management aspect. Matching lines isn’t easy when you’re up against a Babcock or Gallant. Balancing out all the little competing factors to make every decision is flat-out difficult even for very experienced coaches. And there’s a soft science to getting good chemistry out of your players. Knowing when to give up on a line, getting buy-in from guys who are having their ice time cut, knowing when to give a rookie his shot, that kind of stuff. For someone who’s never been on the hot seat before, all we can do is just pray that he’s naturally good at it.

See if we extend HCRB'A this nuanced ambit it'll be hard to tell if I should blame him or the roster for the bust year.

 

[NotOpie]

Can he x’s and o’s it up when he has to? Like minja said it can’t be all..... “try harder, I did”.

Based on his interviews, he intimated that he wasn't making dramatic changes to the existing system, merely a few tweaks. He also flat out said he greatly admired Peter Laviolette. So it would't surprise me to see a Bill Peter's/Peter Laviolette hybrid system. Maybe they are so different that that's impossible, but that's not my impression.

For someone who’s never been on the hot seat before, all we can do is just pray that he’s naturally good at it.

I'm guessing there will be a lot of praying going on on the bench and in the stands.

 

[bleedgreen]

I’m not quite so worried about Rod as an X’s and O’s guy. For one thing, I think we overestimate how much that stuff really impacts an NHL team. In the grind of the season there aren’t dramatic changes in strategy from night to night, and in-game changes seem to be largely a myth we make up as fans. And I think Rod’s been around the game and around coaches enough to know it by now. He’s run the PP, he played a ton of PK in his day. There’s no reason he should have issues with that part of the game if he’s an intelligent hockey mind.

What worries me is the game-management aspect. Matching lines isn’t easy when you’re up against a Babcock or Gallant. Balancing out all the little competing factors to make every decision is flat-out difficult even for very experienced coaches. And there’s a soft science to getting good chemistry out of your players. Knowing when to give up on a line, getting buy-in from guys who are having their ice time cut, knowing when to give a rookie his shot, that kind of stuff. For someone who’s never been on the hot seat before, all we can do is just pray that he’s naturally good at it.

I didn’t say it right then. To me game management is part of the x’s and o’s - it’s the total package. The ability to notice something going wrong and knowing what to do to fix it. Whether that be switching lines around to adapt to a weakness being exploited as well as having say the rw’s drop back in certain situations to change their coverage areas so they can - adapt to a weakness being exploited.

I guess I would mildly disagree about the coaching, I agree it’s overblown a bit but I do think there are tweaks game to game that are coaching based that are not just line managements.

I should’ve clarified though.

 

[bleedgreen]

Bill Peters was apparently lauded as a good (if not brilliant) X's and O's type of guy and that didn't seem to do much (other than fancy stats), so perhaps Brindy can motivate them to succeed a la Reggie Dunlop:
"All right, let's show 'em what we got, guys! Get out there on the ice and let 'em know you're there. Get that f***in' stick in their side. Let 'em know you're there!"

Peters needed better horses to go further than we had. RF couldn’t find better horses, like many gm’s including our current one struggle with. Peters message maybe grew stale on players that couldn’t or wouldn’t step up to a higher level.

Peter’s IS a very good technical coach.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Peters IS a very good technical coach.

Based on what data?

 

[Drivebytrucker]

What HCRB should bring that Peters didnt is accountability.

If youre not giving 100% effort, go to the 4th line and PDG can take your spot.

Then to the press box or Charlotte....


how many times do you think Peters went into a dressing room and threw shit and told them to wake the f*** up?

I dont think any of our players were scared of Muller or Peters

 

[Highest Boss]

Looking forward to Rod bringing out the rope in training camp

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Based on what data?

Based on the x's and o's of the system we've run for the last few years?

It's a subjective description that currently isn't defined by stats, so asking for data is odd, this is more a combination of reputation and "watch his teams and see how they play." It's like questioning what data says that Victor Rask is a below average skater, or what data says that a player's release is deceptive.