News & Notes XLIV: Revenge of the Seth

[hblueridgegal]

3 years! Gotta wear shades..

 

[CanesUltimate11]

Best decision was allowing Brindamour to coach, despite his lack of experience.

Worst decision? Letting Forslund walk. Raising parking prices to absurd levels. Possibly interfering with the negotiation process many, many times over.

Has that potential interference really been an issue anywhere outside of Guentzel and Rod? Obviously the Rod one would have been a catastrophic mistake and worthy of it's own "worse decision" title but what other negotiations has he potentially step on?

 

[cptjeff]

Would if I could. That's a damn good question.

I can only guess that it would make a lot of sense that the real pay probably isn't allow to differ from how it is for the salary cap purposes, so that if you're in AHL for a day for the salary cap, you also wouldn't get NHL salary for that day either. BUT. The salary cap get gamed that way and it would get gamed even if the players took the hit for it, so I'm just as prepared to believe that NHLPA would have gotten some silent concession that the player gets paid the NHL salary anyway if the transfer is merely a paper transfer.

I *think* it's kind of telling that you never hear a player whine about getting stolen some salary by team's shenanigans.

I would be shocked if that happens- the NHL has got to have some mechanism to audit teams books for cap compliance, and that's 100% a violation of the CBA.

I think players don't whine because they're young players happy to be in the NHL and not looking to make waves or piss of their teams. Plus, the money is already an ungodly large amount to them.

But I would like to see the next CBA go by game rather than by day to stop these shenanigans.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Has that potential interference really been an issue anywhere outside of Guentzel and Rod? Obviously the Rod one would have been a catastrophic mistake and worthy of it's own "worse decision" title but what other negotiations has he potentially step on?

Confirmed or rumored? Because even guys that have signed with us, their agents have talked about Dundon's negotiation process. He's involved. To what degree is anyone's guess.

But I mostly included it because of the potential loss of RBA.

 

[Lucky Lindy]

Best decision was allowing Brindamour to coach, despite his lack of experience.

Worst decision? Letting Forslund walk. Raising parking prices to absurd levels. Possibly interfering with the negotiation process many, many times over.

Same answer here, with Rod and Forslund.

 

[DaveG]

Has that potential interference really been an issue anywhere outside of Guentzel and Rod? Obviously the Rod one would have been a catastrophic mistake and worthy of it's own "worse decision" title but what other negotiations has he potentially step on?

Hamilton and arguably Pesce as well. I can't speak to any of the big ticket UFAs other than Guentzel because typically they've been of an age where we haven't and wouldn't be in on them (ie: Stamkos), most of the guys that we've gone after have been via trade a year or two before they would have been set to go to UFA outside of Eichel.

 

[Derailed75]

Hamilton and arguably Pesce as well. I can't speak to any of the big ticket UFAs other than Guentzel because typically they've been of an age where we haven't and wouldn't be in on them (ie: Stamkos), most of the guys that we've gone after have been via trade a year or two before they would have been set to go to UFA outside of Eichel.

I dont remember hearing anything about him being in on the Dougie or Pesce negotiations. I think both of them are cases of wanting more money than the collective thought they would be worth, not so much TD stepping in. Personally I think they nailed both.

 

[CanesUltimate11]

Hamilton and arguably Pesce as well. I can't speak to any of the big ticket UFAs other than Guentzel because typically they've been of an age where we haven't and wouldn't be in on them (ie: Stamkos), most of the guys that we've gone after have been via trade a year or two before they would have been set to go to UFA outside of Eichel.

If Dundon was the reason the Borg didn't offer Hamilton 9 million a year I'm going to say that was a good decision on his part. Pesce we'll see how he holds up.

Having an owner that involved isn't by default a bad thing (yes the track record is not great in sports).

 

[tarheelhockey]

Sounding like Boston is replacing Jim Montgomery with Joe Sacco.

 

[DaveG]

If Dundon was the reason the Borg didn't offer Hamilton 9 million a year I'm going to say that was a good decision on his part. Pesce we'll see how he holds up.

Having an owner that involved isn't by default a bad thing (yes the track record is not great in sports).

Oh believe me I'm not commenting on whether it's a good thing or not that playing hardball on negotiations had the impact it did. I actually think missing on extending Dougie wasn't a bad thing at all as we were able to add Burns cheap for the game offensive impact and slightly better defense at a lower price tag. I'm just saying that it is a factor in the "why" on those players no longer being here.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

If they continue to win, I don't care if Dundon "interferes" with negotiations. We like to pat ourselves on the back for not being in cap hell, not having boat anchor contracts, or not being too top heavy, but at the same time get upset when the guy in charge doesn't do it the way we want him to.

As far as parking goes. It's $27 with Parkwhiz. Anyone complaining about $45 parking has only theirselves to blame. Plus, there are still other options to park for less if people want to walk.

And doesn't NC state charge anywhere from $20-$60 for parking for football games? Just because we got used to ridiculously low prices when the Canes sucked for 10 years doesn't mean the Canes are out of line now IMO.