Post-Game Talk: New York Rangers at San Jose Sharks - January 25/26

[Kovalev27]

Mcdonagh Holden were terrible together once again.

AV has to try something different and I think the answer is DeAngelo.

Move Holden to the third pair.

 

[Nopuckluck]

Mcdonagh Holden were terrible together once again.

AV has to try something different and I think the answer is DeAngelo.

Move Holden to the third pair.

I agree with you. But careful you might get attacked for your opinion

 

[romba]

What he said.

Without Henrik being a God most of this season the rangers are a bottom 5 team in the nhl pretty easily.

Agreed. When Hank was average after the first couple of weeks the team looked just as bad as when Hank was REALLY off to start, and the team lost just as much too. Because we need at least A- level goaltending or better to have a solid shot at winning. Sure, we can luck our way to a few wins without it, but that's about it. The defensive play is just too pourous.

There really have only been a couple of decently played defensive games this year, and really how much of that is due to our guys' focus and play, versus the opposition having an off night?

 

[Kovalev27]

I agree with you. But careful you might get attacked for your opinion

I always get attacked even when I’m right. Sometimes guys just don’t like to hear the truth. Lol

 

[Megustaelhockey]

If you threaten another user, you will be going away for a long time.

 

[Levitate]

I just rewatched the game. McD scored but was weak in front of his net especially on the fifth goal just watch him. Skjei is a train wreck defensively. Every time I saw Zibenejad he was either getting knocked on his ass or losing a board battle. Kid is soooooooooooo soft

McDonagh has always been bad in front of his own net. For a guy who's quite strong he should be better. Maybe it's a coaching thing, maybe he just doesn't have the instincts for it. It's his one real weakness

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

McDonagh has always been bad in front of his own net. For a guy who's quite strong he should be better. Maybe it's a coaching thing, maybe he just doesn't have the instincts for it. It's his one real weakness

In all fairness , being a crease clearer is not as easy as it once was in the 200 lb. player NHL

Not to mention, the change in near crease cross checking rules.


I’m more concerned about his postitioning and preventing players cutting in particularly on his soft shouder side.

 

[darko]

Mcdonagh Holden were terrible together once again.

AV has to try something different and I think the answer is DeAngelo.

Move Holden to the third pair.

Agree. I want to see McD/ADA.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

I understand what you're saying but if Gorton sells intelligently and not for pennies on the dollar I am ok with the team selling and winning/ competing in games. Last thing i want is to create a losing culture here. Its not the end of the world if we sell grabs or Nash (or both) and still somehow make the playoffs.
This team isn't taking. We can still "restock" and root for the team to win and make the playoffs.
Not sure how making the playoffs in pretty much 12 straight seasons is considered mediocre, but Gorton has to be careful to not be deluded into thinking this is a player away from winning the cup this year.
I think we all care about the future of the team on here especially this season.

I think that the whole mediocre narrative started in all sorts of NYR related forums back in 08, 09 bc rather than tank until we could build a contender we started signing a boatload of disastrous free agents and hovered around the 8 seed. Despite not tanking, all the youth the team stockpiled finally came into its own and the team spent 4 solid years contending for the cup and the top seeding in the East. Now that (mostly AV along with some trades I really disagreed with like Clowe, MSl and E. Staal) the team has fallen back to Earth for 2 seasons suddenly "we were always mediocre" again.Too many people take a myopic view of team building and franchise success. That's why a lot of people are incorrectly citing the loss of Stepan and Girardi as causes of this team's struggles.People also should more frequently take into account how absolutely debilitating the loss of Cherepanov and Sauer and Staal's eye were. To have huge talents like that have career/life altering/ending injuries like they did cost the NYR a cup or two.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I think that the whole mediocre narrative started in all sorts of NYR related forums back in 08, 09 bc rather than tank until we could build a contender we started signing a boatload of disastrous free agents and hovered around the 8 seed. Despite not tanking, all the youth the team stockpiled finally came into its own and the team spent 4 solid years contending for the cup and the top seeding in the East. Now that (mostly AV along with some trades I really disagreed with like Clowe, MSl and E. Staal) the team has fallen back to Earth for 2 seasons suddenly "we were always mediocre" again.Too many people take a myopic view of team building and franchise success. That's why a lot of people are incorrectly citing the loss of Stepan and Girardi as causes of this team's struggles.People also should more frequently take into account how absolutely debilitating the loss of Cherepanov and Sauer and Staal's eye were. To have huge talents like that have career/life altering/ending injuries like they did cost the NYR a cup or two.

Excellent take.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Excellent take.

I give it a 7/10

Didn't mentioned the residual hatred fans had for Sather because of the dark ages. Hatred that led them to having a more skewed negative outlook on the team

 

[Ori]

Holden has always been a 3rd pair guy in my opinion - his talent is very limited.

 

[Larrybiv]

If Gorton decides to buy for some reason down the stretch we are doomed.
On other hand, we shouldn't get totally pissed off if he doesn't sell someone like grabner because i could see some teams really low balling offers on him

There is absolutely NO WAY that teams will low ball for Grabs. All you need are 2 teams that "really want him" and there will be no doubt there will be. I predict we will GET exactly what we want for him......if not more and will also say I think we get him back for next year. This system is perfect for him, loves his teammates.......unless AV is gone.

 

[Larrybiv]

Thats a good example. Makes it tough since the trade deadline is what less than a month???
Thats what Gorton gets paid the big bucks for. He has to make the tough decision in trading nash and grabs much sooner than the end of the season.
Guys like DD and Holden should be no brainer . if you can get some picks for them do it

Defense a premium come PO's. Despite what we may feel about Holden, he's experienced, not horrible defensively and provides decent offense if given the chance. Haven't seen him do that this year as much, which leaves me scratching my head. Maybe soon, as it seems AV really let our D jump in last game.

 

[Larrybiv]

Dell is actually really good

He is, and the Rangers should actually be accoladed for scoring 6 on him. We actually played well offensively, but no one here is ever happy. Oh yeah, and the Sharks are better than just an average team......especially at home. But, haters gonna hate.

 

[Larrybiv]

What's more unlikely?

1. McD scoring 2 goals in a period
2. Grabs getting 2 assists
3. A PPG in 4 straight games
4. AV spitting out his gum

 

[Leonardo87]

Don’t know what to think about this team. They are Bi-Polar. Are they selling or not? I hate false hope.

Anyway good for Mac to finally get on the Goal column.

 

[Igright]

An important win. A good thrilling game. And again it's a pleasure to see the performance of Miller and Hayes.