Post-Game Talk: New York Rangers at San Jose Sharks - January 25/26

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Ugly game. The crowd which is usually hot in SJ (I've been there as well and can firsthand say they have an excellent fanbase) was very sedate this game. That added to the "I want to go to sleep" mood.

Defensively Rangers were mostly a mess besides a few good plays Fast and Vesey made. Pavelec was also a mess...and made some highlight real saves (I still wanted Darcy Kuemper in the offseason and hope they can correct that wrong this summer).

Zuc looked better, I've been very hard on him lately. Maybe he breaks out of his 10-12 quiet games which happen every year and gets hot.

Pretty sure Lettieri is going back to Hartford for both cap room and to keep developing plus with the addition of McLeod and need for centers=23 man roster limit, we might not see him back up rest of the year He had a nice internship, knows what he needs to do for Camp this fall.

I don't think anyone here needs to be nervous about losing younger players or picks if this team is hovering around the playoffs unless you're really a huge fan of Graves/Tambo/Gropp/Gettinger/Fogarty. Other than that, they're not trading Chytil/Anderson/Shesty/Huska/Baron/Day/Ronning who are the top 7 nowadays. If anything, one of those B prospects above gets moved with a 3rd rounder for a Plekanec like player to play 3C.

It's a good time for the break not only for the players, but for us. Been a very up and down year and let's be real, this might be the 3rd most unlikeable roster since the 2005-06 "reboot" of the league. Everyone can chill, take a week off from hockey, and come back Feb 1st for what will surely be a frustrating game vs. Toronto who seems to give the Rangers fits the last 2-3 years.

 

[Samuel Culper III]

There's a chance that Dolan cuts off Gorton's cojones to try and make sure they make the playoffs. I remember the Bruins didn't move Loui Eriksson when he had an expiring contract. They failed to make the playoffs and got nothing. I agree that getting picks for Nash and Grabner is best way to go for sure. Can you get at least a 1st and a 2nd? What's the minimum you would take back for them?

Minimum is definitely 2nd + for each. Obviously there’s a multitude of ways packages can be built but realistically they should each fetch a 1st. Understanding that teams are wont to part with 1sts, price starts at 2nd +.

 

[FultonReed]

keep losing, get Svechnikov, ????, profit.


oh no we won? come on, guys

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

AV is a ****ing ******... I don't understand how you can give up 5 goals to the sharks with one of their best players out.

U mad bro?

They were less depleted than RangersTown™

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

It was even more brutal in person

I told my friend I was with (who knows little about hockey) “now that they got the lead, they’re gonna play boring, safe hockey for the rest of the game”

After the win, did your friend say wow that was an exciting finish. Why you so salty amigo?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Anywho...

RangersTown™ has tanked it's way to 2 games back from 2nd in the division.

 

[Saitama]

Beating the Sharks is always oddly satisfying.

Getting to watch your two favorite teams beat them back-to-back is even more so!

 

[Saitama]

Pavelec has been is awful recently. With better goaltending, we might've only allowed a few goals.

 

[Irishguy42]

Seems like I missed a good one.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

And his ankle will meltdown and he'll be just another former star who moved to Broadway to wither and die.

But this time will be different. I promise

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Imagine

McDonagh - Karlsson
Skjei - Shattenkirk
Staal - DeAngelo

With AV it’ll be
Mcdonagh -Smith
Staal-skjei
Deangelo Shattenkirk

Karlsson in minors

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

We also need to win some games for our players to have adequate level of value for trades since many NHL decision-makers value business-book style “winning” (mentality, experience) more than dumpster-diving to find fancy-stats darlings.

Winning a few games helps to tank. One is not opposed to another.

The guys on the block have won before.. Rick Nash has a couple gold metals, zucc has all that playoff experience, grabner has played playoff hockey and looked good. I’m not concerned about that

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

I'm actually surprised we didn't blow it.

Its amazing how no lead is safe with this team.

Its the polar opposite of this team under Tort's and early AV (basically Tort's team with offense)

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Take that garbage to the advanced stats thread space man

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

On their **** backup, yes....

They also gave up 5 with our backup playing pretty outstandingly...

We look like 2010-2015 penguins out there. All offense, nice goaltending, no defense

"all offense"? Isn't this the first time we scored more than 3 goals in one game for like a month?

 

[hi]

I drank too much beertorade during the 2nd period and fell asleep at the beginning of the 3rd. No hangover. Going to go check the spreadsheets now.

 

[Kovalev27]

Pavelec was horrible really only reason sharks were in that game.

We prob should have won in Anaheim as well with any kind of average goaltending.

I’m still amazed av tried to play ha k 3 games in 4. Nights on the west coast total moron move.

 

[Realize]

Nice that we won. Ugly how we won.

Was the first game I did not watch completely this season because of the ugly and disappointing stuff from the last ~8 games.

 

[Nopuckluck]

McD has zero goals in over 50 games then scores on 2 consecutive shots. Can’t make this crap up

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

It was even more brutal in person

I told my friend I was with (who knows little about hockey) “now that they got the lead, they’re gonna play boring, safe hockey for the rest of the game”

More like unsafe hockey. For them to play that way "safely" they need to efficiently move the puck out of the zone when the chance comes. And disrupt the other team's rushes in the neutral zone and at the blue line. None of which they can do.

It's like shutdown D without the shutdown. How I've missed it.

 

[Mac n Gs]

If only Miller and Hayes could play like that together all the time.

 

[FOD]

Let me ask you all a question. What is more mediocre than going 1-4 on this road trip with your only win being a 6-5 nail biter against their backup? Not to mention we’re sill 4-7 in our last 11.

Mediocrity has been the the Rangers identity for a long time. Mediocrity... and possibly the best goalie of the past 15 years. For example, Carolina is a team that people recently like to beat up on. I see a lot of “wasn’t Carolina supposed to be good?” and “so much for Carolina building on youth” posts. However, has anyone SEEN Scott Darling as a starter?! They’re barely behind us in the standings. Imagine this team with Darling in net. Last in the conference. No bull****.

It just feels like every time this team is on the verge of a legitimate losing streak worthy of firing AV we pull out a win that takes him off of the hot seat for some reason, even though an ugly, ugly 6-5 win is nothing to be happy about. But he will be secure now, especially with the all star break, for a couple more weeks. His need to be relieved is almost undeniable at this point. I don’t give a **** that we won one game on this trip. Dude needs to go.

We really need to face reality, sell and see where the cards fall for us. Right now, I’m not making the “tear it down and trade everyone” argument. I’m not talking about reading McD or Zucc. I’m just saying, at a minimum, get picks for Nash and Grabner, see where we finish once we’ve moved them, draft 2-3 times in the first round and come back fiercer next year. Please. At this point I can’t pretend to watch each game as a fan who thinks we’re SCF bound and doesn’t care about the future. This is THE perfect year to admit we need to restock.

Their backup was 12-3 coming in and they did score 6 goals against him.

 

[offdacrossbar]

if there was ever a morning to get up and read mcd and nash both traded it was this one....

missed opportunity. values never higher.

oh well.

 

[True Blue]

Pavelec was horrible really only reason sharks were in that game.

We prob should have won in Anaheim as well with any kind of average goaltending.

The awful defensive play had LOTS to do with it.

 

[Lays]

On their **** backup, yes....

They also gave up 5 with our backup playing pretty outstandingly...

We look like 2010-2015 penguins out there. All offense, nice goaltending, no defense

Dell is actually really good