Post-Game Talk: New York Rangers at Philadelphia Flyers |Game 6| 4/29/14

[TheTakedown]

Ok and what's your point? We had deflections that tied up Mason and a few break aways and odd man rushes... he saved all of them until his team had a commanding lead.

On the 2nd goal, Henrik was giving terrible rebounds up, left and right.

G, McD, Stralman didn't help him. The offense didn't help him. But he also didn't help them too. We were so dominant in the 1st period, and Mason single handedly kept the Flyers in this game and in this series.

Henrik could not do that when they turned it up in the 2nd period. He's not the reason that we lost, but he sure as hell didn't help the team stay in this game. And he's sure as hell not playing like the highest paid goalie in the league. No excuses. People make them for every bad game that he has.

this is incredibly accurate...

Rangers came out flying for the entire 1st period, and Mason went HAM keeping them in an elimination game.

Henrik on the other hand, was nowhere near stellar.. he's having games where he's either not tested, or sort-of tested, none of which he's really gone crazy trying to play like Richter...

We need to see some of that, or Hank needs to figure his **** out... I'm not saying he needs to stop everything, but you cannot drop 4 goals in 2 periods... again, I am agreeing that the defense took a dump tonight, but TWO of the goals he let in were stoppable, including the ****** breakaway, where he went for the "Brodeur Slide" instead of playing against the shooter...

 

[NYRANGERAMI*]

unfortunately or fortunately, tomorrow comes down to who wants it more. And ive been through alot with this team over the years, so tomorrow will be no different whether they win or lose. Its not like were in the conference finals, its the 1st round and neither of these teams seems ready to win anything. Tomorrow for me even though its a game 7 will be just like any other game. But the Rangers will be more than ready to win this one as they all realize they dont want to end their run just yet....Whomever wants it more will show tomorrow night...and that will be your winner....regardless of what has been successful or lacking on other team....the team that wants it more will click on all cylinders tomorrow night....LGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Saved for the next time you call me out for ******** on the team.

Which is a weird way of saying I agree entirely.

Yeah you've been right about the team in a way. i think you're way too hard on AV, but you've been spot on about Nash and their lack of being able to win puck battles. Cannot emphasize how much a disappointing loser Nash ended up being.

 

[Samuel Culper III]

I have literally posted here less and less because of how much backlash I've gotten trying to convince people that Nash is a terribly overrated auxiliary player that doesn't have it in him to ever be "the guy". I've probably been one of the biggest detractors for god knows how long and I've received nothing but flack from Nash defenders. It's amazing that even two games ago I was still getting bombarded with excuses for Nash and now 90% of the fan base is finally coming around on him.

 

[17futurecap]

Nash actually had a good start to the series, 23 SOG in the first 4 games, with 4 assists. 2 shots combined in games 5 and 6 is brutal.

I think if he can get 5-7 shots tonight, good things will happen. I still have hope he can come up big tonight.

 

[5 4 Fighting]

We need to get rid of this bum Nash, Richards, and Klein.

 

[Idlerlee]

Hopefully, that lights a serious fire under his bum.

I think Zucc has enough fire under his bum as it is, he's already playing a fine line between #heartandsoul and #TakeASeatOverThere

What the hell is going on with G and Mac Truck. Del Zotto put up better showing than this on his bad nights.

Also if Nash continues to float along the boards and not crash to the net I'm going to have an aunerism

 

[Doctyl]

I feel like Girardi is either a 1st pair elite shutdown dman or the worst dman in the league. When he's off he's on the ice for just about every goal against. That bruins game last playoffs was by far his worst, last night was awful.

 

[Cobra Jack*]

Say what you want about Richards, Nash or St. Louis. Tonight's game will come to to 2 factors: MASON AND LUNDQVIST. If Lundqvist gets OUTPLAYED AGAIN tonight the way he has been this entire series by Mason, the Rangers will LOSE.

This guy is not a money goaltender folks and I honestly think the Rangers are a better team when Talbot is in net. I thank Hank for a few years of GOOD goaltending, but this year he just has not had it and I thin it's a bad sign going forward, as age may be catching up with him. We should have gone with Talbot going forward, and tried to trade Lundqvist imo.

 

[Idlerlee]

Say what you want about Richards, Nash or St. Louis. Tonight's game will come to to 2 factors: MASON AND LUNDQVIST. If Lundqvist gets OUTPLAYED AGAIN tonight the way he has been this entire series by Mason, the Rangers will LOSE.

Thankfully that will not be the case since Talbot will be in the goal tonight

 

[Doctyl]

Lundqvist has been outplayed the entire series? We're tied in this series. So are you saying we are winning in spite of Lundqvist?

Also does anyone actually think Talbot is a better goalie?

 

[pld459666]

Thankfully that will not be the case since Talbot will be in the goal tonight

AV is NOT starting Talbot tonight.

NEVER GONNA HAPPEN

 

[Doctyl]

People want a Luongo situation, but that really isn't what we have here at all

 

[Siddi]

Say what you want about Richards, Nash or St. Louis. Tonight's game will come to to 2 factors: MASON AND LUNDQVIST. If Lundqvist gets OUTPLAYED AGAIN tonight the way he has been this entire series by Mason, the Rangers will LOSE.

This guy is not a money goaltender folks and I honestly think the Rangers are a better team when Talbot is in net. I thank Hank for a few years of GOOD goaltending, but this year he just has not had it and I thin it's a bad sign going forward, as age may be catching up with him. We should have gone with Talbot going forward, and tried to trade Lundqvist imo.

Thankfully that will not be the case since Talbot will be in the goal tonight

 

[Cobra Jack*]

Lundqvist has been outplayed the entire series? We're tied in this series. So are you saying we are winning in spite of Lundqvist?

Also does anyone actually think Talbot is a better goalie?

Talbot has been a better goalie this year, YES HE HAS. I don't know who's better overall and I don't care, I only know the Rangers are better THIS YEAR when Talbot is in net. They just are, period.

 

[Ail]

By the end of tomorrow night I expect they'll be contenders again.

The **** effort in front of Henrik was not his fault, but he has to make the save on the breakaway if they had any chance of staying in it last night. He looked awful on that goal because he second guessed himself. He should have stuck with his instinct.

The Flyers played a great game. Mason was huge. The PP came through. Philly did everything they needed to to win with authority.

If this is the PP and McDonagh we are getting for the rest of the playoffs they are not beating Pittsburgh. This series should solidify how important a healthy McDonagh is to this team, and he clearly is not. This is the worst stretch of play in his Rangers career. We all knew how important a lethal PP is, nothing new there.

Edit: Glad I went to bed during the second. They shouldn't have even played last night and just gave Philly the W because we all saw that coming, optimistic predictions be damned.

 

[haohmaru]

I love how every time the Rangers lose it's "Lundqvist's fault" or "Mason's better", etc...

The Flyers aren't leaving guys like Simmonds open 1-2' in front of the net to slam in rebounds. You want to blame someone for this loss? Blame Girardi and McDonagh who played the worst playoff games of their respective careers. Blame the PP for constantly creating momentum for the OTHER team. Blame Rick Nash for not doing what he's paid to do.

Talbot doesn't stop 3 out of those 4 goals and the breakaway goal is a 50/50 chance. McD and G have to better or it's over tonight.

 

[ImIdaho]

I love how every time the Rangers lose it's "Lundqvist's fault" or "Mason's better", etc...

The Flyers aren't leaving guys like Simmonds open 1-2' in front of the net to slam in rebounds. You want to blame someone for this loss? Blame Girardi and McDonagh who played the worst playoff games of their respective careers. Blame the PP for constantly creating momentum for the OTHER team. Blame Rick Nash for not doing what he's paid to do.

Talbot doesn't stop 3 out of those 4 goals and the breakaway goal is a 50/50 chance. McD and G have to better or it's over tonight.

I am always amazed at how we have 3 players close to the net and they either whiff on the puck, make a dumb pass, puck goes over their stick, yet, Philly can send in one player and he will get multiple shots on goal.

 

[RangerBoy]

It shouldn't be a surprise the Rangers are tied in this series.

The level of hockey had been rather ordinary, but then, this is a series between the clubs that finished 12th and 13th respectively in the overall league standings, so perhaps this should have been expected, especially under the umbrella of a schedule in which just four games were played in 10 days.

The Rangers have the fewest amount of points of any team to hold home-ice advantage in a series.

Indeed, there were four first-round series — St. Louis-Chicago; San Jose-Los Angeles; Colorado-Minnesota; Tampa Bay-Montreal — in which both teams finished with better records than both New York and Philadelphia, highlighting the inequities of the new playoff format that gets the NHL its bracket at the expense of the integrity of the competition.

Cup contender The Flyers were trying to give the Rangers the lead last night but the Rangers couldn't capitalize. Can Benoit Pouliot stop taking stupid penalties? Game 2 and last night. Can someone score a big goal?

Then there is Rick Nash

And then, Rick Nash, still scoreless through six games of this series, and who will go into Game 7 with one goal in 18 playoff games as a Ranger. Again, it is never on one player — not Nash, not Lundqvist, not McDonagh — but the Blueshirts traded for No. 61 for games and moments like these.

You watch Chicago and Jonathan Toews rises to the occasion. You watch L.A., and it’s Anze Kopitar. In Columbus for Pittsburgh, it was Evgeni Malkin.

But for the Rangers, not yet from Nash.

“I’m trying my best … I’m trying my best to help the team win,†Nash told The Post. “They’re not going in, so of course it’s frustrating.

“It’s very frustrating.â€

http://nypost.com/2014/04/30/time-for-low-key-rangers-to-man-up-in-game-7/

Larry is preaching to the choir. Many of us have said the same thing about Nash. Sather brought Nash in to be the difference maker when Nash had no playoff resume showing that he IS the man.

The next series begins on Friday. Plenty of time to rest up for Pittsburgh. The winner tonight would be playing their 4th game in 6 nights. Sunday afternoon. Tuesday. Wednesday. Friday. Pittsburgh played on Monday. 4 day break for them. Perfect. Not too short. Not too long.

Rangers should win tonight.

 

[Ail]

I am always amazed at how we have 3 players close to the net and they either whiff on the puck, make a dumb pass, puck goes over their stick, yet, Philly can send in one player and he will get multiple shots on goal.

It was uncanny last night how many wiffs, bounces, bad luck plays in general they had. Better lucky than good.

 

[CharlieCharleschuk]

Joe let the cat out of the bag last night.

The Rangers spend all season honing a system to start winning a lot of games. They succeed.

After Game 2 the Flyers had reviewed enough tape to understand and out-coach the system. Since then Rangers haven't responded.

Notice the cross-ice pass/score book that we had in the first games is not happening anymore. That's not on Mason/Emery but on the Flyers taking that play away. The playmaking space we count on is gone.

Without some adjustments by our coaching staff and sacrifice from our skaters we will go nowhere.

 

[tbonenc*]

Read my post. I 99% sure that's what everyone is referring to.

Simmonds did punch Zucc in the back of the head after his goal. NBC wouldn't show the full replay.
I wanted to jump through the TV and tear that idiots head off.

 

[haohmaru]

Joe let the cat out of the bag last night.

The Rangers spend all season honing a system to start winning a lot of games. They succeed.

After Game 2 the Flyers had reviewed enough tape to understand and out-coach the system. Since then Rangers haven't responded.

Notice the cross-ice pass/score book that we had in the first games is not happening anymore. That's not on Mason/Emery but on the Flyers taking that play away. The playmaking space we count on is gone.

Without some adjustments by our coaching staff and sacrifice from our skaters we will go nowhere.

Huh?

The Flyers turned the puck over and over an over again last night. We couldn't capitalize and lost momentum through dumb turnovers and a PP that was beyond putrid. They tried to hand us the game and we just handed it back.

 

[tbonenc*]

I love how every time the Rangers lose it's "Lundqvist's fault" or "Mason's better", etc...

The Flyers aren't leaving guys like Simmonds open 1-2' in front of the net to slam in rebounds. You want to blame someone for this loss? Blame Girardi and McDonagh who played the worst playoff games of their respective careers. Blame the PP for constantly creating momentum for the OTHER team. Blame Rick Nash for not doing what he's paid to do.

Talbot doesn't stop 3 out of those 4 goals and the breakaway goal is a 50/50 chance. McD and G have to better or it's over tonight.

A loss is never on one player. But our stars are not doing anything to help the cause.

McDonagh hasn't been the same since the injury. But, he is still our best defensman. He was out there alone last night. On the first goal, he did make the wrong decision, but G was out of position. On Simmonds second goal, he blocked Shenn's shot, but was unlucky that it deflected right to Simmonds. Girardi left him high and dry again.

Hank, oh Hank. Can't outright blame him for any of the goals, maybe the breakaway. He should have committed to come out and get to the puck. When he didn't, he was in no-mans land. He makes some big saves when its an obvious pass across and the shooter goes low. But, he doesn't aggressively challenge shooters. He tends to sit back in his crease, allowing plays that might not otherwise develop, happen. Again, I keep coming back to him making routine saves look spectacular. I would be in favor of moving him in the off season to a team that thinks its just a goaltender away from the Cup.

Nash is a tough one. I feel like the guy has been playing two-way hockey and has created plenty of scoring chances. Obviously, he isn't finishing and that is a problem. But, its also a problem that when he does create these chances, his line mates are not there to put in the rebound.

Poo is an idiot, but Yosemite Sam should have gotten an Academy award for that dive. I have never seen a guy skate around swinging his stick like he's Barry Bonds without getting called and as soon as he is touched, we are in the box.

J.T. is not ready for prime time. How he didn't see the trailer on that 3v1 is beyond me. Seems like the game is moving too fast for him.

While I never thought this team would get beyond the second round, I did think they would get past the Flyers. We'll see tonight.

 

[Ail]

Huh?

The Flyers turned the puck over and over an over again last night. We couldn't capitalize and lost momentum through dumb turnovers and a PP that was beyond putrid. They tried to hand us the game and we just handed it back.

Yeah and it should come as no surprise but despite the score the Rangers dominated them at even strength but failed to make the most of it. The difference was Mason, the Flyers' PP and dumb mistakes.