Post-Game Talk: New York Rangers at Arizona Coyotes - January 6

[SniperHF]

Wile-E gifs are always funny but that was like a top 5 game my stupid team has played all season.

 

[darko]

I just refuse to believe this team has any chance at a championship with AV at the helm. We've progressively gotten worse every year he's been here. Sorry if the prospect of making the playoffs and losing in the second round doesn't get me hyped up.

I've accepted that they are going nowhere. Still want them to win. Win as much as possible and make playoffs while selling off pieces at the deadline.

 

[bl02]

Even if Nash is just a pick (2nd or 3rd) OR a prospect, I'd say its still a small win. If Nash was to suffer a season ending injury right now, I wouldn't be too worried about it affecting our playoff chances, so moving him more the chance to draft a player like Buch (recent 3rd rounder) seems like a no brainer, even if the pick doesn't actually pan out.

I'm not saying quit on the season, but seriously evaluate what's currently allowing this team to win, and start making moves to fix the glaring issues

Well hopefully Gorton is working on deals for holden and Nash to get back as much in return as possible. We just have to wait and see

 

[darko]

@Bozle and sorry about a rude reply. Just frustrated the way it's going lately.

 

[egelband]

What matters is that they make the playoffs. Maybe they are playing well come playoff time. Maybe Krieder is back. Teams go thru funks and some teams win even when they aren't playing their best and some teams lose. The rangers are fortunate to have great goaltending to make up for some deficiencies when not playing well.

Yep. There’s a ton of parity now. Injuries, a hot goalie, a late-season trade or callup... these kind of things can be difference-makers and tilt the ice toward us. If there’s a good deal on the table for a Nash or Grabner, sure, consider it. But the Rangers shouldn’t and won’t sell for the sake of it.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Don't look at one game, there's too much parity in the league for that. Of course any team can beat another on any given night. But to win the Cup you need to win 4 7 game series, which means you need consistency; and we have been anything but consistent this season.
Watch teams like TBL and even when they lose you can see that on another night they would have walked away with a win. For the Rangers it more often looks like unless hank plays lights out we aren't going anywhere. So the question is, just how many series can Hanks steal, especially when the opposition gets consistently tougher and we're often up against goalies who are closer in talent to him?

Thats my point. There is too much parity in this league and lesser teams beat better teams every night but when we play poorly or lose to bad teams the knee jerk reaction is always that we suck. I prefer to look at the season in it's entirety and right now we are in a playoff spot.

 

[Ori]

<3 a classic

 

[mike14]

Thats my point. There is too much parity in this league and lesser teams beat better teams every night but when we play poorly or lose to bad teams the knee jerk reaction is always that we suck. I prefer to look at the season in it's entirety and right now we are in a playoff spot.

Because we play "poorly" compared to other top competition too often and rely on our goaltender to bail us out. That's great as far as it goes, but we have 12 seasons of seeing that no matter how much Hank stands on his head, it hasn't been enough to drag us over the line, and the current team doesn't look as good as severe we've had recently who couldn't go all the way

 

[bl02]

I'm pretty sure everyone will be jumping on the playoff bandwagon if we win round one like we did against the best coach in the history of hockey last season. Nothing beats being in playoff hockey in April. If you were to tell me take a top 5 pick or a birth to the playoffs I take the former but that's not happening so give Hank a chance to make the playoffs . It could very well be his last. with the parity in this league and being In super tough division this could be last playoffs in a while

 

[Kaapo Kakko]

Someday the rangers are going to win the cup with a great team and a mediocre goalie and an old lundqvist with grey hair will weep tears of sadness.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

@Bozle and sorry about a rude reply. Just frustrated the way it's going lately.

Its okay boo. The Chiefs loss has me on edge bad.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I didn't see the game so for all I know all of the shootout attempts went wide. But in addition to a great game (it seems) by Lundqvist, great shootout.

 

[darko]

Its okay boo. The Chiefs loss has me on edge bad.

Next season Chiefs/Cowboys SB. Giants with 0-16 season.

 

[darko]

Someday the rangers are going to win the cup with a great team and a mediocre goalie and an old lundqvist with grey hair will weep tears of sadness.

Let's hope he's not too old when that time comes.

 

[egelband]

I don’t get why so many people think it’s not a good way to win when the goalie plays great. What if a winger or defenseman put the team on his back? They’re all part of the team.
Is the worry that the goalie is more prone to slumps or injury?

 

[nevesis]

Can we talk about how dirty Zibanejad’s shootout goal was?

 

[will1066]

Can we talk about how dirty Zibanejad’s shootout goal was?

Yes. I commented that Raanta is going to wake up woozy tomorrow because he got roofied.

 

[will1066]

I don’t get why so many people think it’s not a good way to win when the goalie plays great. What if a winger or defenseman put the team on his back? They’re all part of the team.
Is the worry that the goalie is more prone to slumps or injury?

Actually you have a point about injury. The way he's had to make acrobatic save after save game after game taxes his body. He's also getting run over, but that's par for course. The whole league runs Hank in his crease.

I don't think it's sustainable for the goalie to play lights out game after game for a team to sneak out with OT and SO wins.

 

[bl02]

Can we talk about how dirty Zibanejad’s shootout goal was?

Or how dirty the vesey goal was. Let's be honest when was the last time a ranger created a goal like that all on his own. Doesn't surprise me he gets no love for that goal he scored with the narrative being firmly planted against him

 

[will1066]

Or how dirty the vesey goal was. Let's be honest when was the last time a ranger created a goal like that all on his own. Doesn't surprise me he gets no love for that goal he scored with the narrative being firmly planted against him

Yeah, I commented that Raanta is gonna wake up woozy tomorrow morning because Vesey slipped him a roofie.

 

[ltsthinaz]

I hear all the talk about tanking the season to get a top 5 pick (as if that's really going to happen - it isn't). In any case, Carolina, Buffalo, Edmonton are picking top 5 every year and they still stink. Rangers are a big-market destination team where players make lots of off-ice money due to being in a media capital/big city, they need cap room at least as much as they need prospects/picks, which are, in any case, hit and miss.
I really think the team is kind of rebuilding on the fly, and they'll reap benefits down the line from having decent hometown discount contracts and not having Stepan/Nash/Staal contracts next year, what with Kreider back, maybe add a top-line free agent and bringing along a couple of the kids (Andersson was impressive in WJC, as was Chytil).

Going to the game tomorrow - don't know if anyone has actually been following the Knights, they don't suck and their record isn't a mirage. Rangers come out in the first like they did tonight, they can play two goalies and it'll be 4-0.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Buch being handled the way he has been by AV is an abomination. How can Gorton be happy with this?

 

[Maximus]

You know what's so laugh out loud funny to me. EVERY and in CAPS EVERY team in the Metro who we are competing against to get a playoff spot have as much if not more warts than we do. Why is it so hard for some in here to realize that despite our warts and weaknesses that prop up now and again, we have as good a shot as any of these teams to emerge as the representative of the Eastern Conference to play for the Cup.

Fellas we are what we are....a solid team with some warts but unlike most teams we have a goalie who is playing out of his mind the past few months. Yeah he's 35 but from my recollection there have been quite a few goalies that old who have led their teams to grandeur and Cups. Does Tim Thomas ring a bell? Does Chris Osgood ring a bell? Even Dom Hasek?

What I'm trying to say is let's just enjoy this ride we are on. I don't see any reason why Hank is all of a sudden going to revert to his 2016 ways. He came into the season with a chip on his shoulder as I suspected he would and I said so publicly that I thought this year would be MUCH better than last year, as he wanted to show all his doubters and detractors that last year's piss poor season other than the Habs 1st round playoff series, was a total fluke.

We have a future HOF goalie here at top of his game. Combine that with an offense and defense that is good enough to skate and perform with any team in the leauge and that includes Tampa. So I for one expect us to have one of those long playoff runs all of us have grown accustomed too.

I have total confidence in GMJG to acquire for us the assets we need either before or at the deadline to enhance our club withought taking away from our future. We are in a good place fellas. Let's enjoy what's going on and get ready for what looks to me like a very exciting and enjoyable next 3-4 months.

Maybe I'm on an island and in the minority here but I'm very pumped up about where our boys are headed and it doesn't even include Kreids. If he comes back, that's part of the bonus plan!
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[LeetchisGod]

Yup, halfway thru the season we sucked our way to 3rd in the division and a playoff position.

When was the last time this team won a game and didn't look terrible doing it? How often does this team win when Hank isn't otherworldly?

 

[LeetchisGod]

Jesus Christ. The team is 22-14-5. This team has not been awful the whole year. I still feel they will play better moving forward and it's a positive that they have great goaltending, not a negative.

Smoke, Mirrors and Hank. Nothing more.