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GDT: New York @ Montreal Pt. II

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Jonathan. said:
You're kidding, right? Why do you think we weren't signing any secondary scorers? This is not that difficult. This team was banking on Kreider providing our secondary scoring. I don't even know how anyone could actually disagree on that, since it's a fact. His poor play has caused a ton of problems for this team, since we have had to resort to plugging Miller into his role, playing Boyle more, etc. His poor play has caused so many problems it's not even funny. We have ZERO secondary scoring.

Again, a lot of that blame can go to Sather for not hedging his bet properly. But that's hindsight at this point.

Sather was BANKING on Kreider putting up .50 PPG this season.



I have to wonder, though, how much better they would be if they had a consistently good player like Kreider with them. It's obvious that Richards doesn't mesh with Nash and that Stepan does. But it's just as obvious that Callahan is not a top 6 player.

I don't know. A lot of the blame goes to Gabby and Richards. I agree. Just trying to wrap my head around all of it.
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Garbage. Kreider has been jerked around by Torts the genius. You can't score from the bench. Torts' pets Richards and Boyle have contributed zilch. Add in Gabby and you have what we have.
 
With all of the huge salaries on this team. We can't buy a goal. There is an aura in the air in MTL. We just can't shake this.

I know people are tired of hearing this, but Torts has to go. This team has no identity and needs a shake up in the worst way. Easiest is to start with the coach.
 
SA16 said:
The whole year Kreider has not been put in a position to provide that secondary scoring. He's never on the pp, he gets put with awful linemates, he gets randomly benched for no reasons often, when he makes the smallest mistake he gets benched. You can't say you know how he would produce if given consistent playing time in an offensive position because that hasn't come close to happening all year
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The problem is that he hasn't done a single thing to earn it. Let's be honest here. He was not very good in Hartford. Sure, we can blame the linemates there. He's a very flawed player. He has amazing physical attributes, but he's not the smartest player and he clearly cannot create offense by himself.

Sather bet on him to provide this offense. He is more to blame for any of it than Kreider. I'm not really putting huge amounts of blame on Kreider, but just pointing out that he clearly failed to provide the offense our GM thought he would.
 
Like I said, if George steinbrenner owned this team and was still alive... no one is coming out of this game alive
 
ThisYearsModel said:
Garbage. Kreider has been jerked around by Torts the genius. You can't score from the bench. Torts' pets Richards and Boyle have contributed zilch. Add in Gabby and you have what we have.
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Show me the plays from this season that would lead me to believe that Kreider should be in the top 6 other than the first game of his call-up.

Don't worry. I'll wait.
 
Jonathan. said:
The problem is that he hasn't done a single thing to earn it. Let's be honest here. He was not very good in Hartford. Sure, we can blame the linemates there. He's a very flawed player. He has amazing physical attributes, but he's not the smartest player and he clearly cannot create offense by himself.

Sather bet on him to provide this offense. He is more to blame for any of it than Kreider. I'm not really putting huge amounts of blame on Kreider, but just pointing out that he clearly failed to provide the offense our GM thought he would.
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Thank god we have Torts :laugh:
 
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