This screwed me so hard in gambling. HUGE. 5 figures huge. Had AZ in the ML
The last Prater miss was only made worse by the previous Prater miss w 3+ min to go, that was closer and would’ve put them up by 10.
So angry I am.
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The last Prater miss was only made worse by the previous Prater miss w 3+ min to go, that was closer and would’ve put them up by 10.
So angry I am.
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They may well, but as I said In a separate post, they've got to at least try to trade - If you know the guy you want will be there at 3, you gotta try to get something extra for your 1.
But yes, assuming NE won't meet their price, yes, could happen that MHJ goes 1.
Wow. Literally easiest schedule ever? Sure, losses to Balt and Cinti, but everything else is “a game”
It’s also 6 picks in the top 102. That 5 in 100 is great, but it’s even better at 6 in 102
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Let them. We could do the same to them, if we are “happy” at 2.
Bears cannot go below 3 (at worst, 4), if they want MHJr…..so let them pilfer someone for the 1OA, they move to 3OA, and we force them to move back up to 2OA.
And we get one the QB’s plus draft capital. .
And doofus Smith has just been fired. So, it is what it is.Trotter would be an amazing add…
And I love that the Saints players went rogue on their coach…
Saints overrule Allen's call; TD ticks off Falcons
The Saints players' decision to overrule coach Dennis Allen's call to run out the clock and have Jamaal Williams score a late TD angered Falcons coach Arthur Smith.www.espn.com
First HC down, 4-6 more to go, I’d wager
Whomever the new regime decides — but Williams and Maye are head and shoulders ahead of anyone else.
I’d be thrilled w either.
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It ain’t happening. The Bears will not pass up the opportunity to take Caleb Williams. Fields has not shown enough, and they’d soon have to commit to him financially. Taking a QB restarts the 5 year window.
Also, it would be insanity to pass on a prospect like Caleb - who likely would have been taken 1OA in the prior couple of drafts (had he been eligible to come out after his freshman or sophomore seasons).
MHJr is gonna be great, but there are a lot of good WRs in this draft (Nabers, Odunze) that the Bears could even snag with their other 1st.
We, in all likelihood, will be looking at Maye at 2OA - which is perfectly fine by me. I like his size, and play in structure from the pocket more than Caleb.
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I think Maye is the best QB in the draft, again probably my bias here being a UNC guy and watching all his starts. But man does he give me Mahomes/Allen vibes the way he keeps plays alive and makes something out of nothing when he's not slinging it. I've been fortunate to go from Trubisky to Howell to Maye at UNC and each one significantly better than the next. I still think Sam Howell can be a good starter at the NFL level but Drake Maye can be an elite starter. I'd be elated if the Bears take Williams. If the Pats trade up to #1 I could see them taking Maye.
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Bears will want multiple 1sts for the #1 spot, which i dont think the pats will pay to move up 2 spots. I’m sure they’d be perfectly happy with maye or daniels
What im worried about is us giving up the farm to move up just one spot
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Teams I think could move up to 1. Giants, Jets, Falcons.
If the Bears want Harrison they cant move below the cards at 4.
Im not sure I would trade up to one even if it only cost giving the bears their 2nd rounder back. Ill be happy with Maye and using the 2nd to get OL to protect him
If the Bears want Harrison they cant move below the cards at 4.
Im not sure I would trade up to one even if it only cost giving the bears their 2nd rounder back. Ill be happy with Maye and using the 2nd to get OL to protect him
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As stated many times I'm not a college fanatic so my exposure is limited.
But based on the videos I've seen of Maye and Williams I think I prefer Maye.
I get that Williams has that kind of Mahomes vibe for people with the improvisational talent, but that's a hard thing to bank your franchise on, and for the NFL I'm really looking hard at what kind of starting toolkit the QB has particularly above the shoulders.
(I really liked Richardson as a prospect last year despite a similar profile but AR still seems like a potential freak of nature type QB if he heals fully, so we'll see.)
With Maye, from what I've observed, nothing rattles him. He's consistent and measured in the pocket, and the level of preparation and practice and pure QB drilling he's done his entire life is obvious to me. Same footwork every time, same arm mechanics (unless he needs to throw a crazy off-hand TD while scrambling....nuts), same steady and calm movement of his head through his progressions while set to throw, etc. I haven't looked it up but I'd bet he was either a coach's son or was involved in a LOT of QB specific practice early on in life through HS and college. *
Williams OTOH plays like me and my buddies when we'd bloody each other in pickup games in the back yard or some field full of rocks and glass. I know he's not out there drawing up plays in the dirt but that SEEMS like his background.
Plus you can't argue with size as a starting point, imo. Maye is 6'4" and plays like it. Williams is only 6ft and has like 5lbs more weight (granted probably muscle).
Both have elite arm strength and can make passes all over the field, but my sense is Maye is going by the book and picking apart the defense while Williams mostly finds a way to fit the ball into space. That concerns me because NFL DBs will bait QBs like that and have greater closing speed than college DBs.
tl'dr Maye looks like a polished can't-miss NFL ready QB and Williams looks like a high risk/reward lottery ticket. Given the history of this franchise I think you need to take the safer option.
*edit: there it is....from an article "Maye's father, Mark, was a quarterback for the Tar Heels in the 1980s, and brother Luke sparked a national championship run for UNC basketball in 2017."
But based on the videos I've seen of Maye and Williams I think I prefer Maye.
I get that Williams has that kind of Mahomes vibe for people with the improvisational talent, but that's a hard thing to bank your franchise on, and for the NFL I'm really looking hard at what kind of starting toolkit the QB has particularly above the shoulders.
(I really liked Richardson as a prospect last year despite a similar profile but AR still seems like a potential freak of nature type QB if he heals fully, so we'll see.)
With Maye, from what I've observed, nothing rattles him. He's consistent and measured in the pocket, and the level of preparation and practice and pure QB drilling he's done his entire life is obvious to me. Same footwork every time, same arm mechanics (unless he needs to throw a crazy off-hand TD while scrambling....nuts), same steady and calm movement of his head through his progressions while set to throw, etc. I haven't looked it up but I'd bet he was either a coach's son or was involved in a LOT of QB specific practice early on in life through HS and college. *
Williams OTOH plays like me and my buddies when we'd bloody each other in pickup games in the back yard or some field full of rocks and glass. I know he's not out there drawing up plays in the dirt but that SEEMS like his background.
Plus you can't argue with size as a starting point, imo. Maye is 6'4" and plays like it. Williams is only 6ft and has like 5lbs more weight (granted probably muscle).
Both have elite arm strength and can make passes all over the field, but my sense is Maye is going by the book and picking apart the defense while Williams mostly finds a way to fit the ball into space. That concerns me because NFL DBs will bait QBs like that and have greater closing speed than college DBs.
tl'dr Maye looks like a polished can't-miss NFL ready QB and Williams looks like a high risk/reward lottery ticket. Given the history of this franchise I think you need to take the safer option.
*edit: there it is....from an article "Maye's father, Mark, was a quarterback for the Tar Heels in the 1980s, and brother Luke sparked a national championship run for UNC basketball in 2017."
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Trubiski was brutal as an NFL player and Howell was up and down this year tho certainly better than Trubiski. Maye is that much better than both of them?
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And Ron is gone. NFLn
Bob Meyers is a smart dude. He build the splash brothers warriors team. Good sign hes picking the GM and coach
Bob Meyers is a smart dude. He build the splash brothers warriors team. Good sign hes picking the GM and coach
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They won't f*** this hire up. The odds are strongly in their favor they will find someone new.
2 really smart people leading the search. Already a breath of relief from the Snyder era.
The bright days are coming!
2 really smart people leading the search. Already a breath of relief from the Snyder era.
The bright days are coming!
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Mayhew is not out. Not yet at least, Ari or whoever was wrong. And Rapp seems to have been wrong that they were more then they are; they seem to be just a committee to help build a franchise.
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Rivera fired; ex-GMs to lead Washington overhaul
The Washington Commanders dismissed coach Ron Rivera and hired former Golden State Warriors GM Bob Myers and former Minnesota Vikings GM Rick Spielman to help in the search for a new head of football operations and head coach, team officials told ESPN.
"This is a crucial offseason for us, and we won't shy away from the work needed to get back to a place where we can deliver a winning culture top to bottom," Harris said in a statement shared to ESPN. "...I've known Bob a long time and watched him construct four championship teams and a highly successful organization in Golden State...He is innovative, thoughtful, well-connected across sports and understands what it takes to solidify and sustain championship infrastructure. I think he's going to be incredibly additive."
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