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[Patty Ice]

I mean I don’t think anyone is in the wrong. It’s talking about hockey. It ain’t that deep.

It wasn't a serious response. I was trying to convey that both Superman and Bizarro believe they are right, that it's all a matter of perspective.

 

[Lebanezer]

It wasn't a serious response. I was trying to convey that both Superman and Bizarro believe they are right, that it's all a matter of perspective.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. We’re never wrong, even when we disagree.

 

[Jargon]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. We’re never wrong, even when we disagree.

That’s where you’re wrong.

 

[Lebanezer]

That’s where you’re wrong.

 

[tiburon12]

@Kcoyote3 for what it's worth, I listen to your pod at 1.3x haha

 

[Star Platinum]

@Kcoyote3 for what it's worth, I listen to your pod at 1.3x haha

I mean, my wife is listening to the podcast as I'm listening to it and commenting on how you guys beat horses to death, so if people are complaining about the length of the podcasats, it's pretty much because of that.

 

[gaucholoco3]

@Kcoyote3 for what it's worth, I listen to your pod at 1.3x haha

I’m normally at 1.75 but had to up to 2x when @Kcoyote3 was running solo.

 

[coooldude]

I’m normally at 1.75 but had to up to 2x when @Kcoyote3 was running solo.

2x is impressive. I'm at 1.5.

 

[Kcoyote3]

I’m normally at 1.75 but had to up to 2x when @Kcoyote3 was running solo.

Well as long as you all are enjoying our rambles.

 

[Kcoyote3]

 

[Friday]

Well as long as you all are enjoying our rambles.

We are, give us a 24 hour draft stream haha

 

[gaucholoco3]

2x is impressive. I'm at 1.5.

After months of listening to every podcast on 1.5 I upped it for the SJHN podcast. What’s crazy is if you are used to 1.5 or higher and you go back to 1x it is unbearable.

 

[matt trick]

Regarding Celebrini offers at the draft, I honestly think I’d have turned down Nikishin, Necas, and Jarvis, let alone Necas, Nikishin, and two late firsts. Those are three tremendous assets, all three first line/first pair and young, but none is Celebrini.

For SJ- or any team rebuilding- there’s not a more valuable asset in the league (McDavid, McKinnon will almost certainly have better careers but Celebrini is so much younger). A Franchise center is the most valuable piece you can have. At 18 he’s a 1C, he can play any system- it doesn’t need to be built around his flaws- is going to be elite defensively while getting to the hard areas offensively. Equal parts playmaker and scorer, gritty yet quite fast. Dude has it all.

#2 and Chicago’s unprotected first. You might end up with Schaefer, Misa, and Demidov/Lev, but it could also be Martone, Desnoyers/Hagens/Frondell, with 2024 2OA.

Think I’d rather have one MVP caliber player than two or three all-stars. Also, with the Carolina deal we’d probably acquire less futures as three now assets means the rebuild must be accelerated.

Great podcast, even at 1.7 speed.

 

[gaucholoco3]

Regarding Celebrini offers at the draft, I honestly think I’d have turned down Nikishin, Necas, and Jarvis, let alone Necas, Nikishin, and two Kate firsts. Those are three tremendous assets, all three first line/first pair and young, but none is Celebrini.

For SJ- or any team rebuilding- there’s not a more valuable asset in the league (McDavid, McKinnon will almost certainly have better careers but Celebrini is so much younger). A Franchise center is the most valuable piece you can have. At 18 he’s a 1C, he can play any system- it doesn’t need to be built around his flaws- is going to be elite defensively while getting to the hard areas offensively. Equal parts playmaker and scorer, gritty yet quite fast. Dude has it all.

#2 and Chicago’s unprotected first. You might end up with Schaefer, Misa, and Demidov/Lev, but it could also be Martone, Desnoyers/Hagens/Frondell, with 2024 2OA.

Think I’d rather have one MVP caliber player than two or three all-stars. Also, with the Carolina deal we’d probably acquire less futures as three now assets means the rebuild must be accelerated.

Great podcast, even at 1.7 speed.

I think you could argue that Celebrini is possibly the most valuable player in the league. If you were to do a true fantasy draft I could see the arguments for Celebrini over even McDavid since you would get 10 additional years of production from Celebrini.

 

[TheBeard]

I think you could argue that Celebrini is possibly the most valuable player in the league. If you were to do a true fantasy draft I could see the arguments for Celebrini over even McDavid since you would get 10 additional years of production from Celebrini.

I would say it's Makar then Celebrini then Bedard

 

[matt trick]

I would say it's Makar then Celebrini then Bedard

That’s a good shout. I forget how young he is.

 

[gaucholoco3]

I would say it's Makar then Celebrini then Bedard

I can see that with Makar. Bedard is very low on the list probably even do not draft for me. He is a scoring wing who doesn’t play a two-way game that will have to be on the top line because of his “profile” across the league.

 

[TheBeard]

I can see that with Makar. Bedard is very low on the list probably even do not draft for me. He is a scoring wing who doesn’t play a two-way game that will have to be on the top line because of his “profile” across the league.

It's all subjective, but i still think Bedard is going to have a huge career. This isn't the same era of like 20 years ago when a generational guy can come into the lineup and a GM will immediately surround them with te hopes of competing within 2 years or so. Kyle is slowplaying it in Chicago and it ultimately makes everyone on the offense look bad.

 

[gaucholoco3]

It's all subjective, but i still think Bedard is going to have a huge career. This isn't the same era of like 20 years ago when a generational guy can come into the lineup and a GM will immediately surround them with te hopes of competing within 2 years or so. Kyle is slowplaying it in Chicago and it ultimately makes everyone on the offense look bad.

I think Bedard will have a very successful individual career and probably win a few Rocket Richard and Art Ross trophies at the same never amount to any type of team success.

 

[TheBeard]

I think Bedard will have a very successful individual career and probably win a few Rocket Richard and Art Ross trophies at the same never amount to any type of team success.

That's something that falls on the shoulders of the GM.

 

[gaucholoco3]

That's something that falls on the shoulders of the GM.

When the player only accumulates empty calorie points cheating for offense that is on the player.

 

[TheBeard]

When the player only accumulates empty calorie points cheating for offense that is on the player.

I mean if you’re winning Art Ross and Richard trophies that’s not simply… empty calorie points. Jeez.

 

[coooldude]

I mean if you’re winning Art Ross and Richard trophies that’s not simply… empty calorie points. Jeez.

I mean, Karlsson won a bunch of Norris trophies and only had one good playoff run and three failed attempts to (edit: build or) join winners ending in disappointment (with him).

 

[gaucholoco3]

I mean, Karlsson won a bunch of Norris trophies and only had one good playoff run and three failed attempts to (edit: build or) join winners ending in disappointment (with him).

Matthews has won the Richard and not had any playoff success. There are many players who have had strong individual seasons that don’t amount to team success.

 

[TheBeard]

Matthews has won the Richard and not had any playoff success. There are many players who have had strong individual seasons that don’t amount to team success.

The conversation has taken such a turn from my original point.