GDT: New Jersey Devils vs Montreal Canadiens- 7:00pm EST SN, RDS, TSN 690

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Bob b smith

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If Therrien was a decent coach, he'd bench Pacioretty and/or Plekanec if we're losing tonight in the third period to really send a message.

But he's not a decent coach. He's an idiot who has his job because of who he's friends with and the language he speaks. So Patches, Plek, Markov will continue to carry on unscathed. Some "consequences"...

He'd need to tighten the wrench on Patches who is the biggest coaster on the team playing with zero consequences... The downside is MT's in a tight spot and he would have to find a way to do it without losing the room. Plex and Markov seem to be trying but they're just getting older...

Maybe that's why he'll limit himself softer targets. Politically correct targets are perhaps Eller. You could perhaps also squeeze one or two additional minutes off Galchenyuk. But I really don't know what more you can get from those guys. They seem to be skating as hard as anyone on the team.

Won't talk about DD because normal rules don't seem to apply for him. And anyways I think he's giving all he can. He's just not the player MT thinks he has.
 

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He'd need to tighten the wrench on Patches who is the biggest coaster on the team playing with zero consequences... The downside is MT's in a tight spot and he would have to find a way to do it without losing the room. Plex and Markov seem to be trying but they're just getting older...

Maybe that's why he'll limit himself softer targets. Politically correct targets are perhaps Eller. You could perhaps also squeeze one or two additional minutes off Galchenyuk. But I really don't know what more you can get from those guys. They seem to be skating as hard as anyone on the team.

Won't talk about DD because normal rules don't seem to apply for him. And anyways I think he's giving all he can. He's just not the player MT thinks he has.

Pacioretty is likely on Eller and Galchenyuk's side. Therrien scratches him...mutiny becomes totally justified. .
 

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The only way scratching Plekanec can make sense, lineup-wise, is that Lars Eller is probably back to 3rd C. That probably means DD getting top-6 to borderline top-3 minutes, however.
 

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If Therrien was a decent coach, he'd bench Pacioretty and/or Plekanec if we're losing tonight in the third period to really send a message.

But he's not a decent coach. He's an idiot who has his job because of who he's friends with and the language he speaks. So Patches, Plek, Markov will continue to carry on unscathed. Some "consequences"...

When we look at the levers a coach can pull, there aren't that many outside of sending someone to the stands, reducing their TOI and not playing them on top lines, top pairings and the PP. If all that fails, they might get called out in the media, directly or in a general fashion.

Therrien should rattle the better players by not giving them as much TOI and removing some PP time from them and awarding it to those who have shown more effort.

Plus, we've already gone through the dog and pony show where the GM talks to the dressing room as it happened a few games ago. Since that rarely utilized method hasn't produced any consistently positive results, the writing is on the wall and something will need to happen. But what?
 

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Panic mode: engaged

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Pacioretty is likely on Eller and Galchenyuk's side. Therrien scratches him...mutiny becomes totally justified. .

That's an interesting observation, as there are factions within a dressing room that could impact on how far a coach can go in meting out consequences.

Benching the better players and those who they protect, may cause a greater rift. However, if the team continues to spiral, what else can Therrien do? He will have to keep escalating the measures, until his GM makes a move or two, to send a clear message that the players that they can't get so comfortable and only show up when they feel like it.

In a related example, Michel Bergeron with a juicy story yesterday. He was making a point about talkers vs. doers in a dressing room and how some players just keep on yapping and yapping while they are doing nothing on the ice that helps the team. One such player, who Bergeron didn't name, gets up in the dressing room at one point, and tells his team mates "Guys, we gotta go out there and give it our 100%!! We can do it! We have a great team, we can snap out of this!! C'mon, let's go!!".

Once the rah-rah guy had finished his speech, Bergeron turns to him: "You, sit down. You're not playing tonight". :laugh:
 

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If we win, I'm happy. If we lose, I'm happier. I have a feeling a loss here and MB will be looking for a new bench boss.
 

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Therrien's idea of accountability in the midst of a 4-12-1 run: scratch a third liner.

Ruff's idea of accountability in the midst of a 2-5-0 run: bench Seguin and Benn in the third period of last night's game and split them up in practice.

pretty much this

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If we win, I'm happy. If we lose, I'm happier. I have a feeling a loss here and MB will be looking for a new bench boss.

How long before we get a Game of Thrones meme about "Lefebvre is coming". :sarcasm:
 

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Eller is nothing great, the quicker the Habs figure that out the better. They should definitely use him in a trade.

If he's nothing great what can you really trade him for that would help the team? Package him with Tinordi and a pick and you still won't get **** all back. Eller might not be great but I'd still get DD off this team first and let Eller be the 3rd line center again. At least Eller is still useful even if he isn't putting up points unlike DD who is useless when not scoring.
 

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If he's nothing great what can you really trade him for that would help the team? Package him with Tinordi and a pick and you still won't get **** all back. Eller might not be great but I'd still get DD off this team first and let Eller be the 3rd line center again. At least Eller is still useful even if he isn't putting up points unlike DD who is useless when not scoring.

he is?

he's a turnover machine, never passes and has tunnel vision.
 

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If he's nothing great what can you really trade him for that would help the team? Package him with Tinordi and a pick and you still won't get **** all back. Eller might not be great but I'd still get DD off this team first and let Eller be the 3rd line center again. At least Eller is still useful even if he isn't putting up points unlike DD who is useless when not scoring.

LOL, Eller is our worst player at the moment (actually pretty close with Emelin). In all my years, I've never seen such a dumb hockey player (Emelin a close second once again). No vision, turnovers after turnovers.

I don't like Desharnais but at least he can be useful in a 3C role. Eller is a liability in a top 9 situation.
 

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LOL, Eller is our worst player at the moment (actually pretty close with Emelin). In all my years, I've never seen such a dumb hockey player (Emelin a close second once again). No vision, turnovers after turnovers.

I don't like Desharnais but at least he can be useful in a 3C role. Eller is a liability in a top 9 situation.

Eller, who probably hates Therrien the most in the room, is our worst player when in the past 20 games the entire team is playing like theyre trying to get Therrien fired.

It cant be that hard to put two and two together.
 

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Will not watch this one. Not sure why I even watched last night. :dunno:
 

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I thought the Habs would defeat the Flyers. Now I'm not confident they'll defeat the Devils. There's half a season to go. I expect the Habs will play with more confidence when Price returns.

Whatever happens in the second half, I'll remain satisfied that the Habs won the single game out of 82 on the schedule that I most wanted them to win in one-sided fashion, the Winter Classic, played before 67,000 downcast Bruins fans.
 
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