Speculation: New coach options?

[larmex99]

you didn't look very hard then he had interviews with vegas philly and florida

Yes, I knew that. It went well apparently.

 

[WpgSteve]

Did TNSE ever speak to Babcock? I know he comes with some baggage, but his resume seems a lot stronger than the guys we are talking about now. Beggars can't be choosers!

 

[heretik27]

Been busy with work, but so far I got Trotz bailing on us, Dubois posturing for a huge payday or wanting to leave as a UFA, Scheifele wanted to "see which direction the team was going..", Chevy got extended, and our top coaching option left is Rick Tocchet? Sounds like another banner year in the making for the Winnipeg Jets. It's actually incredible how far this team has fallen since 2018 given we were supposed to be trending upwards at the time.

My only hope is that Chevy grabs his balls out of his purse and pulls the trigger on some much needed trades to try and excise the stench that is haunting our locker room by the end of the draft. Give us some hope that this team can be great again in the future. We already know the current core isn't going to get it done and is only getting older.

 

[Jetsfan79]

Did TNSE ever speak to Babcock? I know he comes with some baggage, but his resume seems a lot stronger than the guys we are talking about now. Beggars can't be choosers!

I don't think *any* team talked to Babcock. Not even the cut throat Golden Nights. If that's shortsighted Jets aren't alone in that

 

[HellebuyckOurSaviour]

What about calling Dan Bylsma? He's coaching in the AHL right now and was originally drafted by the Jets in 89'. Fits the TNSE profile haha

Previous head coaching experience - check

Short hair and glasses - check

Has original ties to the Jets - double check

 

[snowkiddin]

Good point. He had maybe 1 first line player in any given year to work with in Arizona. His best centers were second line caliber. He's likely getting 4 first liners hwre including 2 number 1 C's and a Vezina goalie. That is a much better starting point. Throw in Perfetti and likely another acquisition (Tochett not at all afraid to play smaller skill guys like Keller and Garland) and he has a top 6 a mile better then he had there.

From what I can gather he prefers to run a moder top 9 and his third lines scored decently well. So that is something different he may bring to the table here.

So maybe he brings a similar template as the 2016 Pens where he uses a modern top 9, speed and puck pressure with a mobile dcore.

PK's outside of 20-21 were quite respectable, PP's were not but that might be a talent issue.

So If we do bring in Rick and say Arniel then I'd expect a good PK and a balanced forward core with a more mobile dcore. We'd need to bring in an assistant that specializes in the PP and one with a good mind for defense.

Another thing Arizona's metrics this year were significantly worse then anything they did with Tochett. As they were the year before he got there.

They were a in temrs of relative XGF/60 -18% i
terms of offensive chance generarion whereas they were between a -1 to -6% under Tochett. The year preeceeding Rick they were -10%.

They were a + 12% relative XGA/60 this year In terms of chances given up. With Tochett they were break even to + 7 XGA/60. The year that preceeded Rick they were + 22%

So to me Tochett got significantly more out of the team in terms of chance share then the coaches who predated and preceeded him.

I actually feel a lot better now about him. He improved that Coyotes team by a lot in terms of 5 on 5 play.

This makes me feel a little better, surixon. Thank you for sharing.

Please don’t ever leave these boards, or begin behaving erratically enough that you get banned.

 

[blueandgoldguy]

I don't know....Rick Tocchet on the bench with that non-stop barrage of betting advertisements between whistles....

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

If Tocchet ends up in Winnipeg I think Kessel ends up in Winnipeg.

Anyway, I think we should just go after a rookie coach with a solid resume, similar to Bednar or Cooper. Ryan Warsofsky would be my pick right now. But I think it'll end up being Scott Arniel.

Either way, I expect the Jets to be a dumpster fire come next season.

 

[JetsFan815]

If Tocchet ends up in Winnipeg I think Kessel ends up in Winnipeg.

Anyway, I think we should just go after a rookie coach with a solid resume, similar to Bednar or Cooper. Ryan Warsofsky would be my pick right now. But I think it'll end up being Scott Arniel.

Either way, I expect the Jets to be a dumpster fire come next season.

This is a soft forward group that refuses to play defense. Phil Kessel is quite possibly the last thing this team needs.

 

[PhilJets]

I'm seeing Tocchet a lot, so he is the front runner?

He coached the Cayotes right?

 

[None]

I'm seeing Tocchet a lot, so he is the front runner?

He coached the Cayotes right?

Kevin Weekes said earlier that the Jets had an offer on the table to a coach and then later said that Tocchet is the frontrunner; ergo, it's likely that the Jets offered Tocchet a contract. There's a pretty good chance that Tocchet is the next coach.

Yeah, his previous NHL head coaching jobs were with the Lightning from 2008-10 (1.8 seasons) and the Coyotes from 2017-2021 (4 seasons).

Here's his record as head coach:

		Regu							Play
Season	Team	GP	W	L	OL	PTS	PTS%	Finish	G	W	L	T	W-L%
08-09	TBL	66	19	33	14	52	.394	5th
09-10	TBL	82	34	36	12	80	.488	3rd
17-18	ARI	82	29	41	12	70	.427	8th	0	0	0
18-19	ARI	82	39	35	8	86	.524	4th	0	0	0
19-20	ARI	70	33	29	8	74	.529	5th	9	4	5		.444
20-21	ARI	56	24	26	6	54	.482	5th	0	0	0
4 yrs	ARI	290	125	131	34	284	.490		9	4	5		.444
2 yrs	TBL	148	53	69	26	132	.446
Career		438	178	200	60	416	.475		9	4	5		.444

From Hockey-Reference.com

 

[JetsNut]

Living in a city doesn’t mean a fan have to cheer for the team, the amount of complaining done here I would think some would be better off just cheering for any top 5 teams year to year…..

I could never understand people who can cheer for a team which whom they have no connection with.

 

[JetsNut]

How messed up the team must be that the best HC the Jets could persuade to coach here was Tocchet

You’re completely assuming that this is the case. Jets were the only team to have a second interview with one of the best coaches in the league.

 

[JetsNut]

As near as I can tell no other team has considered him to be their coach. II feel for Jets‘ owners. This must be a bitter pill to swallow. It sure feels that way to me and I am an unapologetic Jets fanatic.

That’s fake news. He was reported to have had second interviews with a couple of other teams.

 

[UFO]

The Coyotes fans make me wanna jump out of the window if Tocchet becomes our next coach.

 

[SensibleGuy]

This STILL isn't done!??? He's STILL mulling it over???

 

[RustyCat]

Good point. He had maybe 1 first line player in any given year to work with in Arizona. His best centers were second line caliber. He's likely getting 4 first liners hwre including 2 number 1 C's and a Vezina goalie. That is a much better starting point. Throw in Perfetti and likely another acquisition (Tochett not at all afraid to play smaller skill guys like Keller and Garland) and he has a top 6 a mile better then he had there.

From what I can gather he prefers to run a moder top 9 and his third lines scored decently well. So that is something different he may bring to the table here.

So maybe he brings a similar template as the 2016 Pens where he uses a modern top 9, speed and puck pressure with a mobile dcore.

PK's outside of 20-21 were quite respectable, PP's were not but that might be a talent issue.

So If we do bring in Rick and say Arniel then I'd expect a good PK and a balanced forward core with a more mobile dcore. We'd need to bring in an assistant that specializes in the PP and one with a good mind for defense.

Another thing Arizona's metrics this year were significantly worse then anything they did with Tochett. As they were the year before he got there.

They were a in temrs of relative XGF/60 -18% i
terms of offensive chance generarion whereas they were between a -1 to -6% under Tochett. The year preeceeding Rick they were -10%.

They were a + 12% relative XGA/60 this year In terms of chances given up. With Tochett they were break even to + 7 XGA/60. The year that preceeded Rick they were + 22%

So to me Tochett got significantly more out of the team in terms of chance share then the coaches who predated and preceeded him.

I actually feel a lot better now about him. He improved that Coyotes team by a lot in terms of 5 on 5 play.

I agree. This is what I was thinking a few pages back when I mentioned he actually might be a good fit. Another quality he would bring is the attribute of right-sizing the dressing room. Meaning, he is the type of personality that won't be steamrolled, nor will he tolerate nonsense.

My guess is he is a good communicator as well. In order to effect change as you describe on both TBL and ARZ (with subpar rosters), you need to understand how to convey a message and generate buy in. That is not easy to do and usually the mark of an effective leader in the corporate/private world. It is intriguing what he may do here with a better defence corps, some high end forward talent, and a vezina winning goaltender. Here he would be managing personalities just as much as he would be implementing systems and articulating 'X's' and 'O's"

 

[SensibleGuy]

Anybody "might" be a good fit. I mean it's all guess work. Tocchet does not fill me with confidence or excitement though. Doesn't seem like he's really any better than Maurice...

 

[GaryPoppins]

Kevin Weekes said earlier that the Jets had an offer on the table to a coach and then later said that Tocchet is the frontrunner; ergo, it's likely that the Jets offered Tocchet a contract. There's a pretty good chance that Tocchet is the next coach.

Yeah, his previous NHL head coaching jobs were with the Lightning from 2008-10 (1.8 seasons) and the Coyotes from 2017-2021 (4 seasons).

Here's his record as head coach:

		Regu							Play
Season	Team	GP	W	L	OL	PTS	PTS%	Finish	G	W	L	T	W-L%
08-09	TBL	66	19	33	14	52	.394	5th
09-10	TBL	82	34	36	12	80	.488	3rd
17-18	ARI	82	29	41	12	70	.427	8th	0	0	0
18-19	ARI	82	39	35	8	86	.524	4th	0	0	0
19-20	ARI	70	33	29	8	74	.529	5th	9	4	5		.444
20-21	ARI	56	24	26	6	54	.482	5th	0	0	0
4 yrs	ARI	290	125	131	34	284	.490		9	4	5		.444
2 yrs	TBL	148	53	69	26	132	.446
Career		438	178	200	60	416	.475		9	4	5		.444

From Hockey-Reference.com

 

[DRW204]

 

[SensibleGuy]

Make him an offer Chevy! Hell, just put out a public coaching offer - first come first serve! lol

 

[rehf]

San Jose probably in shock Brunette is available still. Have a feeling that's probably where he's headed.

I love the Jets!

 

[Weezeric]

The more I look at those coyotes teams Tochett coached, the more I’m warming up to him. They were horrible, but he got decent defensive results.

 

[SensibleGuy]

San Jose probably in shock Brunette is available still. Have a feeling that's probably where he's headed.

I love the Jets!

It would be funny if Tocchet goes there.

 

[MardyBum]

Team has a short window anyways, and with Trotz out I don't think it matters who else it was going to be. Gonna have to do a big retool soon anyways and it won't matter who the coach is.

If it's Tocchet with Arniel, or Vincent, or w/e I'll wait and see the roster n how they play to complain .

More interested in the roster moves personally.