Player Discussion Neal Pionk

[Tawnos]

The more you know.

I assume that his cap hit stays the same until he is assigned to an AHL team?

Yeah. Cap is calculated daily.

Not that it matters to the team.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Yeah. Cap is calculated daily.

Not that it matters to the team.

Gorton hinted at taking on bad contracts at the deadline, so every little bit may make a difference to what deals he can swing.

 

[Trxjw]

Looking forward to seeing Pionk get some games in.

 

[kovazub94]

If Smith does end up getting sent down and Staal isn’t back, our 6 D are McDonagh, Skjei, Holden, DeAngelo, Kampfer, and Pionk.

3 lefties and 3 righties. Which begs the question: are they planning on moving Holden off the first pair? None of the 3 RHDs play the left side to my knowledge.

Or maybe we will get another call-up after Smith gets sent down?

In the spirit of rebuilding, I’d love to see

McDonagh-DeAngelo
Skjei-Pionk
Graves-Holden

Just to see where we are with those guys.

One of Holden Kampfer is likely gone re 3rd pair, but in principle I would not be opposed to also see McD with Pionk and Skjei with ADA.

 

[kovazub94]

He hasn't been himself but he's not garbage and he definitely doesn't suck.

@nevesis takes each McD mistake personally.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

Guy sucks this year. I know he’s injured, but his game has slowed down tremendously, and he’s been banged up over the years. Sell while we still can.

Youth. Youth. Youth.

He's also on a garbage team and system, playing with the f***ing joker over here in Nick Holden. But he has been pretty bad, so I do agree mostly. I'd still like to see a non-injured McD play with a guy who can move the puck though.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

I've said it before, but the only way I definitively look to deal McDonagh is if we land the 1st pick(and proceed to take Dahlin, of course).

 

[RangerLifer]

I've said it before, but the only way I definitively look to deal McDonagh is if we land the 1st pick(and proceed to take Dahlin, of course).

Now, I take it you realize that there's no guarantee this team will take Dahlin even if we have the first overall. This team has been monumentally STUPID when it comes to picks in the 1st round.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Now, I take it you realize that there's no guarantee this team will take Dahlin even if we have the first overall. This team has been monumentally STUPID when it comes to picks in the 1st round.

Aside from McIlrath, who else?

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

Now, I take it you realize that there's no guarantee this team will take Dahlin even if we have the first overall. This team has been monumentally STUPID when it comes to picks in the 1st round.

Sorry but they'd take him. You can be monumentally stupid with picks, but you cannot be THAT monumentally stupid with your picks.

Especially if they traded McDonagh before the draft, that gives them all the more incentive to take Dahlin if they had 1st pick.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Aside from McIlrath, who else?

I don't think we had a bad pick in the 1st aside from McIlrath. For where they were picked, we have done a solid job drafting Staal, Del Zotto, Kreider, Miller and Skjei.

It is too early to tell with Andersson and Chytil but both are looking like really good prospects. If you go further back than Staal, you get guys like Jessiman, Sanguinetti, Korpikoski, Montoya etc which are bad, but I don't think we should go that far back. Every team has their flaws if you go back 15-20 years.

 

[RangerLifer]

Sorry but they'd take him. You can be monumentally stupid with picks, but you cannot be THAT monumentally stupid with your picks.

Especially if they traded McDonagh before the draft, that gives them all the more incentive to take Dahlin if they had 1st pick.

I sure hope you are right about that.

 

[RangerLifer]

Aside from McIlrath, who else?

Jessiman in '03, the most talented draft arguable in the history of the NHL. We could have had Getzlaf. I still have nightmares about it.

 

[RangerLifer]

P.S. If we had Getzlaf, the Cup was ours in '14.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Jessiman in '03, the most talented draft arguable in the history of the NHL. We could have had Getzlaf. I still have nightmares about it.

That was with a completely different front office and staff of scouts.

 

[RangerLifer]

That was with a completely different front office and staff of scouts.

Fair point. I guess it's a form of RFPTSS: Ranger Fan Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Jessiman in '03, the most talented draft arguable in the history of the NHL. We could have had Getzlaf. I still have nightmares about it.

Could be worse, Arizona didn’t get a single game played in the NHL out of anyone they picked in ‘03

 

[Tawnos]

Now, I take it you realize that there's no guarantee this team will take Dahlin even if we have the first overall. This team has been monumentally STUPID when it comes to picks in the 1st round.

They had 3 bad first rounds in a 5 year span and have had 2 bad first rounds in the 9 first rounds they’ve picked in since then. With a different organizational philosophy and scouting staff. I wouldn’t project anything from those three years into the current time.

 

[ponytrekker]

Aside from McIlrath, who else?

Sanguinetti. Could have wasted it on this guy: Claude Giroux (C/RW)

 

[nyr2k2]

Sanguinetti. Could have wasted it on this guy: Claude Giroux (C/RW)

The Flyers coveted Sanguinetti and "settled" for Giroux. And by my count there are about 13 other teams that would like to go back and pick Giroux instead of who they did.

 

[haohmaru]

Easiest thing in the world is to criticize a draft retroactively.

Every team in the league has regrets in this department every year.

 

[haohmaru]

@ the subject, however:

Pionk really pissed me off last night. As in, pissed that he hasn't been up here all year. Guy was composed and calm with the puck and really impressed me. I hope he can do it over the next number of games consistently.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Easiest thing in the world is to criticize a draft retroactively.

Every team in the league has regrets in this department every year.

Exactly. By that logic, every team board should criticize their GM for passing on Lundqvist at least 6 times

 

[Tawnos]

@ the subject, however:

Pionk really pissed me off last night. As in, pissed that he hasn't been up here all year. Guy was composed and calm with the puck and really impressed me. I hope he can do it over the next number of games consistently.

I was pleasantly surprised at the calmness.

 

[Fugazy]

@ the subject, however:

Pionk really pissed me off last night. As in, pissed that he hasn't been up here all year. Guy was composed and calm with the puck and really impressed me. I hope he can do it over the next number of games consistently.

Agreed. He clearly deserved his shot earlier than this.