World Cup: National Team threads #2

[Eye of Ra]

For Germany, I'm thinking our final roster will look like this if everyone is fit:


Havertz / Füllkrug / (Undav)
Wirtz / Sane
Musiala / Führich
Gundogan / (Müller)
Kroos / (Goretzka) / (Stiller or Nmecha)
Can* / Andrich*
Kimmich / Henrichs
Mittelstädt / Gosens
Rüdiger / Tah / Hummels / Schlotterbeck / (Thiaw)
Neuer / ter Stegen / Trapp

*Pavlovic


Depending if 23 or 26 man rosters either taking all 5 or just 2 of:
Undav / Müller
Goretzka / Stiller or Nmecha / Thiaw


Missing the cut:
Moukoko / Beier / Werner / Berisha
Brandt / Gnabry / Hofmann / Beste / Adeyemi
Stiller or Nmecha / Groß / Stach / Neuhaus
Martel / Khedira / Karazor / Janelt
Raum / Netz / Baku / Vagnoman
Süle / Bella Kotchap / Bisseck / Ginter
Baumann / Ortega / Leno

Tim Kleindienst?

 

[cgf]

Tim Kleindienst?

Like Behrens & Berisha, I doubt he's even in consideration.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Like Behrens & Berisha, I doubt he's even in consideration.

I wish. Maybe during a friendly window where other guys aren't called and he keeps his form up. Kind of different from those 2 though. Berisha's barely played this year and Behrens has effectively done nothing outside the first couple weeks of the season. Kleindienst has produced more and been more consistent, though a bit of a fallow Jan-Feb stretch.

 

[cgf]

I wish. Maybe during a friendly window where other guys aren't called and he keeps his form up. Kind of different from those 2 though. Berisha's barely played this year and Behrens has effectively done nothing outside the first couple weeks of the season. Kleindienst has produced more and been more consistent, though a bit of a fallow Jan-Feb stretch.

True, but none of them are exactly NT caliber talents.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

True, but none of them are exactly NT caliber talents.

Neither was Füllkrug, Führich, or Undav.

 

[cgf]

Neither was Füllkrug, Führich, or Undav.

Füllkrug lead the BuLi in goalscoring. Führich has absolutely been showing NT-caliber ability all season. While Undav has 23 scorers in 1591 BuLi minutes; Kliendienst has 15 scorers in 2433 BuLi minutes...and a third of those came in the last two matches...plus Undav has also shown much more skill on the ball.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Füllkrug lead the BuLi in goalscoring. Führich has absolutely been showing NT-caliber ability all season. While Undav has 23 scorers in 1591 BuLi minutes; Kliendienst has 15 scorers in 2433 BuLi minutes...and a third of those came in the last two matches...plus Undav has also shown much more skill on the ball.

Kleindienst is only 4 assists off Füllkrug this season with about...250 more minutes. Granted Füllkrug is not having a great season, but more I think Kleindienst has room to similarly grow even at the age of 28 I agree Undav has more skill but he's a different archetype.

 

[cgf]

Kleindienst is only 4 assists off Füllkrug this season with about...250 more minutes. Granted Füllkrug is not having a great season, but more I think Kleindienst has room to similarly grow even at the age of 28 I agree Undav has more skill but he's a different archetype.

Füllkrug is having a down year, but this year isn't what got him onto the NT...the Torjägerkanone...or what's keeping him there...11 goals in 643 NT minutes.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Füllkrug is having a down year, but this year isn't what got him onto the NT...the Torjägerkanone...or what's keeping him there...11 goals in 643 NT minutes.

Why it's worth giving a lot of different guys NT minutes (obviously not suddenly at major tournaments). Don't think even those of us who wanted to see him get a call-up figured he'd perform this well.

 

[al secord]

We are going to get our ass kicked soooooooooooo bad

At least, it will be good practice for Argentina.

I remember saying that before the great Eddie Berdusco humbled the mighty Brazilians. It was all down hill for Romario and Co. after that sunny day in Edmonton.

 

[cgf]

Why it's worth giving a lot of different guys NT minutes (obviously not suddenly at major tournaments). Don't think even those of us who wanted to see him get a call-up figured he'd perform this well.

That's the problem. JN doesn't have enough time with these guys to try out every possible option, and Kleindienst just hasn't done enough to force his way into the mix, despite killing it in the last two matches.

If a 3rd/4th forward is brought along, it'll probably be Beier...who's at 20 scorers in 1963 minutes and has actually been called up before.

E:
In other news, sounds like Leroy won't be back to 100% until after the season ends.

 

[John Price]

watching the 2024 afc u23 Asian cup. apparently the winners or top teams qualify for Olympics but I'm not sure as I don't understand Korean.

anyway Korea China right now, Korea big save on the Chinese player

"The U-23 AFC Asian Cup is also a qualifying event for the Paris 2024 Olympics. The two finalists and the third-placed team at the Asian Cup will qualify for the upcoming Summer Games. The team that finishes fourth will get another shot at qualifying through an intercontinental play-off clash against Guinea. "

 

[phisherman]

watching the 2024 afc u23 Asian cup. apparently the winners or top teams qualify for Olympics but I'm not sure as I don't understand Korean.

anyway Korea China right now, Korea big save on the Chinese player

"The U-23 AFC Asian Cup is also a qualifying event for the Paris 2024 Olympics. The two finalists and the third-placed team at the Asian Cup will qualify for the upcoming Summer Games. The team that finishes fourth will get another shot at qualifying through an intercontinental play-off clash against Guinea. "

All the games are streamed on the AFC Asian Cup youtube channel

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Alfie, as always, put together this great piece.

I wasn't aware Isak's parents came over to Sweden from Eritrea before he was born.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Some unreliable reportage (The S*n) claiming that FIFA/UEFA are mulling action against Spain for government interference in the RFEF, after the creation of a new position (held by Vicente del Bosque) responsible for getting rid of all the rot.

Better reporting leaves it at 'there has been a not friendly exchange of letters between FIFA/UEFA and the Spanish government.'

 

[luiginb]

Some unreliable reportage (The S*n) claiming that FIFA/UEFA are mulling action against Spain for government interference in the RFEF, after the creation of a new position (held by Vicente del Bosque) responsible for getting rid of all the rot.

Better reporting leaves it at 'there has been a not friendly exchange of letters between FIFA/UEFA and the Spanish government.'

Of course FIFA can't have a decent government interfering in that cesspool of a federation.

 

[Evilo]

Except the guy supposed to clean the mess is himself under a lot of rumors.

 

[gary69]

Lucas Hernandez out of the Euros, torn ACL in the left knee. Guy has bad luck with those, injured himself early during the last WC too.

 

[Evilo]

Add Maignan often injured lately, Konate and Upamecano struggling...

 

[Savant]

Add Maignan often injured lately, Konate and Upamecano struggling...

Konate got scissor tackled in Europa league. Came back early, and got scissor tackled in his first game game. Has not looked remotely right since

 

[cgf]

It's coming home

 

[luiginb]

Lucas Hernandez out of the Euros, torn ACL in the left knee. Guy has bad luck with those, injured himself early during the last WC too.

I think it's his third ACL injury ffs. The last one all but killed his speed

 

[cgf]

UEFA is allowing 26-man rosters for the Euros.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

UEFA is allowing 26-man rosters for the Euros.

get with the times gramps they announced this a week ago

 

[cgf]

get with the times gramps they announced this a week ago

Didn't realize it was official lol