Nathan MacKinnon vs. Nico Hischier

[Zacha37]

Both were drafted for overall and both came from the Halifax Mooseheads. Nico finished his draft year with 38G, 48A, and 86 points, while Mackinnon ended with 32G, 43A, and 75 points. Who was a better prospect and why? I am aware Hischier really didn't have any other top prospects to play with, while Nathan got to play with Jonathan Drouin.

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[VoluntaryDom]

I prefer MacK for sure.

 

[Advanced stats]

Mac and it's not close. You forgot to factor in games played. MacKinnon only played 44 games
MacKinnon was also at 1.92 PPG in the playoffs.

Hischier only got 7 points in 6 games.

 

[Zacha37]

Mac and it's not close. You forgot to factor in games played. MacKinnon only played 44 games.

That was missed. My bad.......

 

[Its a Trap]

This is a flawed comparison either way. You're either comparing an 18 year old who hasn't played an NHL game yet to a guy whos already hit 60 points. Or you're comparing two players on squads built much differently.

 

[Zacha37]

This is a flawed comparison either way. You're either comparing an 18 year old who hasn't played an NHL game yet to a guy whos already hit 60 points. Or you're comparing two players on squads built much differently.

I am saying in their draft years. Not now.

 

[Goose of Reason]

In their draft years MacKinnon ainec. Tbh from what I've seen of mack/drouin/ehlers/hischier when they played for Hali I'd take all of those guys over Hischier. He only really wowed me one game (I saw 4 games of his last year so it's not a huge sample just fyi).

 

[Its a Trap]

I am saying in their draft years. Not now.

And I still don't think that's a fair argument. Hischier's only had 1 season with them. Mac had 2 and a better squad. If I'm not mistaken, Halifax was supposed to be a bad squad this year and Hischier was the reason they weren't. Could be wrong on that, only read it in passing going through draft articles.

 

[Lays]

Mack then and now

 

[JetsHomer]

Mackinnon was the best player on what might be the best junior team of all time. Him AINEC

 

[BruinLVGA]

Mac and it's not close. You forgot to factor in games played. MacKinnon only played 44 games
MacKinnon was also at 1.92 PPG in the playoffs.

Hischier only got 7 points in 6 games.

1.
Halifax Mooseheads 2016-17 (with Hischier): 27-35-3-3, a .441% percentage.
Halifax Mooseheads 2012-13 (with McKinnon): 58-6-3-1, a .882% percentage.

Those percentages, translated to an NHL style 82 games season would translate into a team getting 72 points vs a team getting 144 points.

McKinnon's Mooseheads scored 347 goals that season (goal differential... +171). Nico's Mooseheads? 229 (goal differential -30)...

Did you know that Nico had a +/- of +20 (lead the whole team, lead all rookie forwards), while the best forward after him had a... 0? It's not even funny how Nico had to literally drag his team all by himself.

2. That was McKinnon 2nd year in the Q + he played all his life on NA ice. This was Hischier first season in the Q and first in North America.

3. Hischier got a wrist injury that limited him on the latter part of the season. I don't know if McKinnon was playing hurt too. If anyone knows, please do tell.

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So, in this comparison, are you that sure that the playing field was even remotely close to level, to express such a judgement? What Nico achieved for that team is pretty much a miracle. Nico's season was much more difficult to achieve than McKinnon, given the conditions.

 

[goonybird]

MacKinnon was just a much better player. Hischier might surpass him still though...

 

[CanadianSniper]

Mackinnon not close.

 

[Advanced stats]

1.
Halifax Mooseheads 2016-17 (with Hischier): 27-35-3-3, a .441% percentage.
Halifax Mooseheads 2012-13 (with McKinnon): 58-6-3-1, a .882% percentage.

Those percentages, translated to an NHL style 82 games season would translate into a team getting 72 points vs a team getting 144 points.

McKinnon's Mooseheads scored 347 goals that season (goal differential... +171). Nico's Mooseheads? 229 (goal differential -30)...

Did you know that Nico had a +/- of +20 (lead the whole team, lead all rookie forwards), while the best forward after him had a... 0? It's not even funny how Nico had to literally drag his team all by himself.

2. That was McKinnon 2nd year in the Q + he played all his life on NA ice. This was Hischier first season in the Q and first in North America.

3. Hischier got a wrist injury that limited him on the latter part of the season. I don't know if McKinnon was playing hurt too. If anyone knows, please do tell.

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So, in this comparison, are you that sure that the playing field was even remotely close to level, to express such a judgement? What Nico achieved for that team is pretty much a miracle. Nico's season was much more difficult to achieve than McKinnon, given the conditions.

Why are you telling me this? It's easy to see just by watching them that MacKinnon is a sure step above.

 

[SniperOnTheWing]

MacKinnon had better competition in the draft as well, where Hischier shot up through the ranks in a weaker draft.

 

[East Coast Icestyle]

Hischier is smarter, better defensively. Mac just a better physical talent. I'd call them equal. Still think Drouin is the best Moosehead I've ever seen.

 

[Fugazy]

I'd definitely go with MacKinnon. Overall game seems to be superior.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Hischer = Couture/Nugent-Hopkins

Mackinnon = Seguin/Tavares

 

[East Coast Icestyle]

Hischer = Couture/Nugent-Hopkins

Mackinnon = Seguin/Tavares

Except there is literally nothing that backs up that claim to date.

 

[McBaevid]

Mackinnon with ease. Don't think Hischier will be anything special

 

[Samsonite23]

Draft years? Mac no question.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Except there is literally nothing that backs up that claim to date.

63 points in the season immediately following his draft. That's almost unrivaled company. I think Kane was the last guy to do that before him. He's had some struggles since then but he's not even 22. I firmly believe he's going to be a Seguin/Tavares caliber center in this league based on what I've seen from him at this level.

When I see hischer, I see someone at least a tier below. I think he'll be a Couture/Nugent Hopkins level player when he reaches his ceiling. It's very doubtful he'll have he same impact as Mackinnon in this upcoming season.

Obviously I'm not s fortune teller, that's just my opinions based on prior observation.

 

[TheBigThree]

Mack is a beast, Nico I haven't even seen 1 video clip of tbh

 

[TaiMaiShu]

Mack is a beast, Nico I haven't even seen 1 video clip of tbh

This post is hilarious. Appreciate the honesty, but was this post necessary?

 

[SB84]

I forget who said it and I can't find the source on the interconnected web of computers but a member of the Halifax Mooseheads said that he believes Hischier was the best Moosehead. He mentioned that Mac, Drouin and Ehlers all played on great teams and had talented line mates whereas Nico had to do it all on his own while in his first year in the league.

I'd still say MacKinnon was the better prospect and had the better draft year. I also think he will end up the better NHLer but interesting that a member of the Mooseheads made that comment.