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Jojalu

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My post was in response to another post.

If you feel a penalty every 4 games has had a great negative impact, you're welcome to feel that. Nylanders penalty every 4 games probably has a greater impact as it takes him off the ice. Reaves playing, most would think, would have a far greater negative impact than a penalty every 4th game.

I'm trying to avoid going in circles with you because it takes the thread off topic. I'm not so insecure that I need to have the last word.


Was thinking that earlier, has anyone missed either Domi or Reaves?


Lets not get crazy now :laugh:
If Domi can come back and play with Matthews and rekindle their chemistry from last year, he will be productive. He doesn't really create anything on his own, but for 3.5 can be a good complimentry player
 

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Have they played him with Matthews this year? They had good chemistry last season.
I don’t believe so.

Berube started Matthews with Knies and Marner, and had Domi playing centre.

Since Matthews returned, he’s still kept Marner off Matthews RW, and with Minten getting a good look at 3C, maybe we do see Domi back on the wing with Matthews.

Would be good getting him going again when he’s back.
 

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My post was in response to another post.

If you feel a penalty every 4 games has had a great negative impact, you're welcome to feel that. Nylanders penalty every 4 games probably has a greater impact as it takes him off the ice. Reaves playing, most would think, would have a far greater negative impact than a penalty every 4th game.

I'm trying to avoid going in circles with you because it takes the thread off topic. I'm not so insecure that I need to have the last word.


Was thinking that earlier, has anyone missed either Domi or Reaves?


Lets not get crazy now :laugh:
Domi was clearly playing injured, he still brings value on offense if he is used properly. Although I am happy the team is winning games, the offense could really use some extra juice as there's a lot of passengers especially in the bottom six currently.
 

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I love that Bradley and Craig have built a team that play the game the way I like it to be played. Our defence is mean, goalies are reliable, we concede so few goals, we're playing the game the right way finally.

Final piece of the puzzle is the forwards. I have full confidence in Bradley fine tuning the forwards during the season.

First time I've been excited by the team in over a decade.

I wonder if they are doing a bit of a rotation so guys get some rest with so many games coming up?
Absolutely. We have so much depth now, that we'll continue to rotate the D to keep them healthy for the playoffs.
 

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If Domi can come back and play with Matthews and rekindle their chemistry from last year, he will be productive. He doesn't really create anything on his own, but for 3.5 can be a good complimentry player
I'm surprised it hasn't been tried for even a single game this year. The Domi-Matthews line was our best last year, hope when he's back we give it another look at some point
 

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These games against lesser teams are a true test of character development. Do we still lose to teams we should beat handidly? Or are we finally a serious team.

Find out on the next episode of DragonBall Z
 

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I think people keep forgetting or not acknowledging that Reaves brings an element of deterrence and insurance should things get out of hand and turn into a clown show. Or someone takes a run at Nylander etc. Reaves will dummy someone. It's an element to the team and you need it especially around the playoffs.
It's not even that. It's what he brings to the team, being with the guys. 82 games is a long hard slog. Especially when the majority of the season is during the winter.

It's as if no one has even been part of a team before.

One of Kyle's many mistakes was trying to build the most skillful team based off individual skill sets. He had absolutely no clue of what actually contributed to building a successful team. A team made up of a wide, wide range of characteristics. You could tell he started to scramble around in later years, trying to find something he didn't truly understand.

This season we'll see a rotation of the defence throughout the year until the business end of the season kicks in. We'll see forwards playing in the regular season that won't feature much in the playoffs, which is the 2nd season in the NHL calender.

The GM and coach actually know what they are doing and for some it's uncomfortable.
 

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My post was in response to another post. If you feel a penalty every 4 games has had a great negative impact, you're welcome to feel that. Nylanders penalty every 4 games probably has a greater impact as it takes him off the ice. Reaves playing, most would think, would have a far greater negative impact than a penalty every 4th game.
The post said that he wasn't expecting much more than a hit or two and a stupid penalty. That's a pretty accurate expectation when it comes to Reaves. Your response seemed to imply that he didn't take a lot of minor penalties, so I noted that he actually does take a lot of minor penalties. He in fact takes penalties at the highest rate on the team this year. He just doesn't have the raw penalty numbers of others because he sucks so much that he only plays 8 minutes a game, and he hasn't played every game because of healthy scratches and a suspension. I'm not sure why you're so against acknowledging that, and it's relevance when we're seemingly putting Reaves back in the game we're discussing.

I think pretty much everybody agrees that penalties have a negative impact. That said, it's much easier to accept it when they're bringing a lot of positives otherwise like Nylander, instead of negatives. And let's be clear. These players do not take penalties at the same rate. For one, Nylander hasn't taken a penalty every 4 games. Nylander has taken a penalty every 6 games. Reaves has taken a minor penalty every 4 games.

But wait, it's actually so much worse! Reaves has taken a minor penalty for every 31 minutes he has been on the ice, and Nylander has taken a penalty for every 116 minutes that he has been on the ice. That's quite a difference. But wait, it's actually so much worse! That's only minor penalties. We're forgetting about the reason that we're talking about him in the first place. What he's coming back from. That 5 minute major that he took. Remember that? Which means, Reaves takes a penalty every 3.2 games. Every 25 minutes. But wait, it's actually so much worse! That's just counting every penalty the same. But 5 minute majors are so much worse. They're 2.5x the time, and they don't end on a goal. Which means, Reaves has given us 1 minute of penalty time for every 9.6 minutes he is on the ice (playing badly) this year. For reference, Nylander is about one every hour. Weird comparison to make.
 

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If Domi can come back and play with Matthews and rekindle their chemistry from last year, he will be productive. He doesn't really create anything on his own, but for 3.5 can be a good complimentry player
I read a lot where Domi played well with Mathews as near as I can tell he played 14 games with Mathews from march 7th to April 7th he scored 2 goal and had 10 assists. 4 assists of which came in one game. 7 of the 14 games he didn’t get a point. Doesn’t seem like he was all that good, maybe he was alright.
 
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The post said that he wasn't expecting much more than a hit or two and a stupid penalty. That's a pretty accurate expectation when it comes to Reaves. Your response seemed to imply that he didn't take a lot of minor penalties, so I noted that he actually does take a lot of minor penalties. He in fact takes penalties at the highest rate on the team this year. He just doesn't have the raw penalty numbers of others because he sucks so much that he only plays 8 minutes a game, and he hasn't played every game because of healthy scratches and a suspension. I'm not sure why you're so against acknowledging that, and it's relevance when we're seemingly putting Reaves back in the game we're discussing.

I think pretty much everybody agrees that penalties have a negative impact. That said, it's much easier to accept it when they're bringing a lot of positives otherwise like Nylander, instead of negatives. And let's be clear. These players do not take penalties at the same rate. For one, Nylander hasn't taken a penalty every 4 games. Nylander has taken a penalty every 6 games. Reaves has taken a minor penalty every 4 games.

But wait, it's actually so much worse! Reaves has taken a minor penalty for every 31 minutes he has been on the ice, and Nylander has taken a penalty for every 116 minutes that he has been on the ice. That's quite a difference. But wait, it's actually so much worse! That's only minor penalties. We're forgetting about the reason that we're talking about him in the first place. What he's coming back from. That 5 minute major that he took. Remember that? Which means, Reaves takes a penalty every 3.2 games. Every 25 minutes. But wait, it's actually so much worse! That's just counting every penalty the same. But 5 minute majors are so much worse. They're 2.5x the time, and they don't end on a goal. Which means, Reaves has given us 1 minute of penalty time for every 9.6 minutes he is on the ice (playing badly) this year. For reference, Nylander is about one every hour.
Yes, as I said they both take about 1 penalty every 4 games.
How many minutes they play is completely meaningless as the penalty taken still puts you short for 2 minutes.
In their case, 2 minutes short every 4th game.

I know you don't get this so lets just say you're right so we can get on with the GDT.

You can reply now so you win.

I read a lot where Domi played well with Mathews as near as I can tell he played 14 games with Mathews from march 7th to April 7th he scored 2 goal and had 10 assists. 4 assists of which came in one game. 7 of the 14 games he didn’t get a point. Doesn’t seem like he was all that good, maybe he was alright.
He's not, just better with Matthews in comparison to playing with others.
 

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Stamkos with 13 points this year, in 25 games.... but, 10 of those on the powerplay. One goal and two assists, averaging 14:27 a night 5v5.... we've got to take advantage of this, as well as stay out of the box. Now they aren't great on the PP (17th in the league), but they only have 29... yes you read that right, 29 goals for 5v5. In 25 games...
 
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Yes, as I said they both take about 1 penalty every 4 games.
But they don't.
Reaves has taken 5 penalties in 16 games. That is 1 penalty every 3.2 games.
Nylander has taken 4 penalties in 24 games. That is 1 penalty every 6 games.
Reaves is almost double the rate, even if we ignore that he's actually about 6 times worse at it, and brings only negatives otherwise.
How many minutes they play is completely meaningless as the penalty taken still puts you short for 2 minutes.
It tells you how bad they are with taking penalties. And no, one of Reaves' penalties put us short for 5.
In their case, 2 minutes short every 4th game.
Nope. 2 minutes short every 2.5 games for Reaves. 2 minutes short every 6 games for Nylander.
 

Jojalu

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I read a lot where Domi played well with Mathews as near as I can tell he played 14 games with Mathews from march 7th to April 7th he scored 2 goal and had 10 assists. 4 assists of which came in one game. 7 of the 14 games he didn’t get a point. Doesn’t seem like he was all that good, maybe he was alright.
Alright is a stwp in the right direction. Lol
 
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