Nashville Predators talk - The Offseason

[token grinder]

If Stamkos is cool with three years, open the checkbook. Him and ROR would come off at the same time then.

 

[herzausstein]

If Stamkos is cool with three years, open the checkbook. Him and ROR would come off at the same time then.

Honestly might be good to have em staggered. Stamkos can move to wing if pushed out by a young C

 

[LCPreds]

Mushy middle it is then I guess. Hopefully Trotz can actually decide on a strategy one of these days because the tactics do not seem to be in alignment with previous statements.

 

[Kat Predator]

Reading these threads, it does seem like the GMBT honeymoon period may be over.

 

[beardawg]

Reading these threads, it does seem like the GMBT honeymoon period may be over.

The problem is everyone thinks they can do better than Trotz because they won the Stanley Cup for 6 straight seasons on Be A GM mode. All you have to do is trade Saros and a 2nd for Connor Bedard and let Askarov become a 90 overall after 2 seasons

 

[EyeofSaros]

Nyquist-ROR-Forsberg
Stamkos-Stephenson-Evangelista
Pärssinen-Novak-L'Heureux
Smith-McCarron-Sissons

Skjei-Josi
Gustafsson-Walker
Lauzon-Fabbro
Schenn

Saros
Askarov

That would be a true contending team. Cap space currently 26mil If u think the contracts would be like:
Stammer 6mil for 3 years
Stephenson 5mil for 4 years
Skjei 6mil for 5 years
Walker for 3mil
Gustafsson for 2mil

That's 22mil, i think you want to add a little bit more scoring from the D line so that's why i thought of Gustafsson. The main priority should be Stammer, Skjei and Stephenson, that would really be a great top 6. Come on Barry make it happen !

You can even move guys like Tomasino and Svechkov, because there isn't really space for them. I think Kemell should be kept for the future.

 

[herzausstein]

Nyquist-ROR-Forsberg
Stamkos-Stephenson-Evangelista
Pärssinen-Novak-L'Heureux
Smith-McCarron-Sissons

Skjei-Josi
Gustafsson-Walker
Lauzon-Fabbro
Schenn

Saros
Askarov

That would be a true contending team. Cap space currently 26mil If u think the contracts would be like:
Stammer 6mil for 3 years
Stephenson 5mil for 4 years
Skjei 6mil for 5 years
Walker for 3mil
Gustafsson for 2mil

That's 22mil, i think you want to add a little bit more scoring from the D line so that's why i thought of Gustafsson. The main priority should be Stammer, Skjei and Stephenson, that would really be a great top 6. Come on Barry make it happen !

You can even move guys like Tomasino and Svechkov, because there isn't really space for them. I think Kemell should be kept for the future.

I would put novak on wing with Pärssinen down the middle. Give L'Heureux one more season in the AHL and Tomasino a legit shot to at the very least build some trade value. We just saw Holtz go for next to nothing. Trading Tomasino for next to nothing when he has some real offensive flair would be silly.

Wouldnt trade svechkov. His ceiling is higher than Parssinen in ny opinion and RoR, Stamkos, and Stephenson are all nearing their expired date

 

[Enoch]

Mushy middle it is then I guess. Hopefully Trotz can actually decide on a strategy one of these days because the tactics do not seem to be in alignment with previous statements.

He didn’t commit. This past year was the year. Instead we picked 22.

 

[JD86]

Stamkos isn't great at even strength anymore, but he should really help the power play. If you're not going to reset/rebuild, which they're clearly not, I'm all for it. If nothing else, it would be really cool to see Stamkos in a Preds jersey.

 

[wmupreds]

The problem is everyone thinks they can do better than Trotz because they won the Stanley Cup for 6 straight seasons on Be A GM mode. All you have to do is trade Saros and a 2nd for Connor Bedard and let Askarov become a 90 overall after 2 seasons

Or, people can have different opinions and that's what boards like this are for. There's some whining, but I see plenty of decent discussion here, and it ain't from posts like this just vomiting out strawmen and appeals to authority.

 

[beardawg]

Or, people can have different opinions and that's what boards like this are for. There's some whining, but I see plenty of decent discussion here, and it ain't from posts like this just vomiting out strawmen and appeals to authority.

I love a healthy discussion, however I see more whining about the teams moves rather than offering realistic ideas and solutions (and im pretty sure a few are just the same people with burner accounts). They place unrealistic expectations on management and get butt hurt when they make a move to stay competitive

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Or, people can have different opinions and that's what boards like this are for. There's some whining, but I see plenty of decent discussion here, and it ain't from posts like this just vomiting out strawmen and appeals to authority.

I think there are like 2, maybe 3, posters that put out ridiculous trade proposals you'd see in a video game. I think most that are expressing discontent don't see a cohesive plan that matches what has been articulated by the front office. Things still need to play out, so reactions are a little premature, but it doesn't generally come from a place that is posters thinking it's simple and they could do better.

 

[Armourboy]

I love a healthy discussion, however I see more whining about the teams moves rather than offering realistic ideas and solutions (and im pretty sure a few are just the same people with burner accounts). They place unrealistic expectations on management and get butt hurt when they make a move to stay competitive

Unless it's someone I have on ignore ( which is like 3 -4 people) I don't think anyone else fits that criteria. Several of the posters go back to the old Preds board ( and as far as I know I only have one of those on ignore ).

 

[GeauxPreds1]

The only reason not to go for Stamkos at this point is if he wants term, like more than 3ish years.. clearly a rebuild isn't gonna happen so just use the cap space and there's not really a better option out there

I’d do 4 years at 7.25

Nyquist-ROR-Forsberg
Stamkos-Stephenson-Evangelista
Pärssinen-Novak-L'Heureux
Smith-McCarron-Sissons

Skjei-Josi
Gustafsson-Walker
Lauzon-Fabbro
Schenn

Saros
Askarov

That would be a true contending team. Cap space currently 26mil If u think the contracts would be like:
Stammer 6mil for 3 years
Stephenson 5mil for 4 years
Skjei 6mil for 5 years
Walker for 3mil
Gustafsson for 2mil

That's 22mil, i think you want to add a little bit more scoring from the D line so that's why i thought of Gustafsson. The main priority should be Stammer, Skjei and Stephenson, that would really be a great top 6. Come on Barry make it happen !

You can even move guys like Tomasino and Svechkov, because there isn't really space for them. I think Kemell should be kept for the future.

I’d rather go after monahan than stephenson. I but that’s just me

 

[beardawg]

Unless it's someone I have on ignore ( which is like 3 -4 people) I don't think anyone else fits that criteria. Several of the posters go back to the old Preds board ( and as far as I know I only have one of those on ignore ).

Yeah I've had to just mute as well. I've been lurking and reading long enough to know that sometimes it's just not worth it. Ultimately, we're all here because 1. We love hockey, and 2. We want to see this team win

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

I'd be very happy bringing in Stamkos and Skjei. Only Stammer worry is too much term, but he's good enough that it's worth the risk (IMO unlike Stevenson or Lindholm).

Some *very* interesting young Dman neames just hit the market. Brannstrom and Boqvist not qualified/bought out, with rumblings Liljegren might not be qualified either. Exactly the type of player I'd want to bring in to compete for 3rd pairing minutes.

@Viqsi what's the scouting report on Boqvist?

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Will be shocked if Stamkos comes here. There are more competitive destinations and agents/GMs have used us as a decoy to get improved offers for so many years now.

 

[herzausstein]

I’d do 4 years at 7.25


I’d rather go after monahan than stephenson. I but that’s just me

Monahan's health still worries me and his defensive game is pretty much none.

 

[GeauxPreds1]

The more I think about it, the more I don’t wanna trade askarov. But he needs to be backing up saros this year. I would do a 57/25 split this year and next year I would give him a 3 year bridge contract for 2.5-3 million and I would start giving him a 50/32 game split for 3 years and run a saros/askarov tandem for 4 years. After that who knows. Askarov value might be where Schneider‘s was and we can get a top 10 pick plus something for him. I just don’t see people over paying for him now

Monahan's health still worries me and his defensive game is pretty much none.

Well I don’t want him for his defensive game I want him for in goal scoring ability which it looks like has came back after his injuries

 

[herzausstein]

The more I think about it, the more I don’t wanna trade askarov. But he needs to be backing up saros this year. I would do a 57/25 split this year and next year I would give him a 3 year bridge contract for 2.5-3 million and I would start giving him a 50/32 game split for 3 years and run a saros/askarov tandem for 4 years. After that who knows. Askarov value might be where Schneider‘s was and we can get a top 10 pick plus something for him. I just don’t see people over paying for him now


Well I don’t want him for his defensive game I want him for in goal scoring ability which it looks like has came back after his injuries

His defensive ability likely puts him in the doghouse. If Brunette plays him, i think he would do well. Question is... does he get played?

 

[BigFatCat999]

Any word on Johanssen buyout?

 

[Armourboy]

Will be shocked if Stamkos comes here. There are more competitive destinations and agents/GMs have used us as a decoy to get improved offers for so many years now.

Only reason I think he might is that McDonagh might have put in a good word. Past that the main reason is I think Trotz will probably offer him more money and term than some of the more competitive teams can afford to give.

Any word on Johanssen buyout?

They can't but him out as long as he is claiming LTIR status is my understanding.

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

The more I think about it, the more I don’t wanna trade askarov. But he needs to be backing up saros this year. I would do a 57/25 split this year and next year I would give him a 3 year bridge contract for 2.5-3 million and I would start giving him a 50/32 game split for 3 years and run a saros/askarov tandem for 4 years. After that who knows. Askarov value might be where Schneider‘s was and we can get a top 10 pick plus something for him. I just don’t see people over paying for him now

I assume and hope, assuming Asky isn't traded, we bring in a veteran backup goalie as well. My approach would then be:

• Saros still gets 55 starts or whatever
• Askarov gets 35-40 starts in the AHL while Backup ABC dresses behind Saros
• Whenever we have a back to back or a time you want Saros to rest, call Askarov up, scratch either Saros or Backup
• Send him back down

You'd end up with 55 Saros starts, 15-20 Askarov NHL starts and 35 Askarov AHL starts, and very few starts from our "backup". If Saros gets hurt, Askarov is the starter.

 

[Armourboy]

I don't see Askarov being traded, because just like with Saros, I don't think anyone is going to be willing to offer Trotz what he wants for him. Trotz values goalies way more than any other GM in the league it seems.

 

[BigFatCat999]

They can't but him out as long as he is claiming LTIR status is my understanding.

Ah!