glenngineer
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Arbitration goes on for like a month. I don't know when his case is being heard.So I guess we get the Arbiter ruling tomorrow?
Arbitration goes on for like a month. I don't know when his case is being heard.So I guess we get the Arbiter ruling tomorrow?
I would agree with you if the guys you are knocking aren't given a chance on the big team to show they can do that. How many people on this forum knock Smith constantly? He is a poor man's Craig Smith with less talent.I'll say one thing about Egor, while he may have progressed every year, he never made the front office go, he needs to be on this team full-time. I'm tired of people blaming the front office for the failures of the players. It's on the players to make an impression and make his mark. Progress is nice, an imprint is even better. Also, the fact that he couldn't knock McC, Jank, Smith or Woody out of the lineup says all you need to know about him. Same could be said about Tomasino and Glass.
Id say having only 1 EV GA over those two games was quite the accomplishment. Only Guiranov, Evangelista, and Trenin also had 1 EV GA and only Trenin also played in both those games.Two year deal is a given, its the details of the money that is the only thing to be determined.
He didn't really get a chance to beat those guys, not by this coaching staff anyways. He came for two games, which was when we played some of our worst hockey of the year and got blown out ( and then had their trip to Vegass Cancelled). He didn't do anything great, but he was the one semi bright spot cause he didn't get owned defensively at least like everyone else in those games.
I agree. I wonder if the Ads players see the big team bring in these other young players (Beauvillier, Fagemo, Foudy, JAD) that are not Vets and have very little NHL experience, are not that good and are playing before any Ads player being called up. Surely they talk about that among themselves and wonder why.I'll be very interested in seeing how the Tomasino, Parssinen, Del Gaizo, and Stastney cases play out. Because we just can't continue this trend of undervaluing and liquidating our internally developed young players. Especially when it's guys like Fabbro, Tolvanen, and Tomasino who we invested 1st round picks in. Those are important organizational building blocks.
Thats a real hefty reward for a 2-way. That AHL pay is a real nice pay bump. His AHL pay was 70,000... granted he also had 93,000 in signing bonuses. Still 400,000 for AHL pay is pretty significant. Dont think it should matter since he should be in the NHL and coming in at a 2 year 837,500 caphit works out well for the team and better than a 1 year 925,000 that he wanted.
And Del Gaizo.So just 2 more RFAs to go. Given Stastney got a 2 way at 825K NHL 400K AHL, i assume both Pärssinen and Tomasino will be looking for more given they both have a more extensive NHL track record.
Thought del gaizo still had a year under contract. He was drafted a year after Stastney so he should get a little less than Stastney but i wouldnt mind something similar. Maybe a 3 year just to lock him in and not have to deal with it againAnd Del Gaizo.
My offers would be pretty simple to all 3 of these guys.
Parssinen: 1yr, 1-way, $775k
Tomasino: 1yr, 1-way, $775k
Del Gaizo: 1yr, 2-way, $775k/$400k - or possibly a 2yr deal split like Stastney's
I don't think there is any point at all in trying to force a 2-way contract on Tomasino or Parssinen. They are both NHL players. Whether they fit our current coach's gameplan or not, who knows, but if we tried to waive them they'd be claimed, so it's not like there is any risk of getting stuck with those 1-way contracts on guys we wanted to assign to the minors. Now, the players themselves may argue they want a little more, since they have both played a significant number of NHL games now. But they have zero leverage, so I don't see much point in them arguing for $100k extra or anything. These should not be difficult contracts at all. I don't know why they haven't already happened... if management is insistent on making them 2-way or the players are insistent on more $$$/term, then somebody is just being nonsensical. Take your 1-year $775k show-me deals, have a great year, you'll have arbitration rights next year, there shouldn't be anything for either side to squabble about right now!
As for Del Gaizo... he can really only get a 2-way contract at this point. He's as good as anybody in Milwaukee, however. I think it's possible with the flood of training camp cuts around the league that he could clear waivers and still end up on the Ads if he doesn't make it for us. He could be in the Carrier situation from a few years back. Or he could stick with us. Giving him a deal like Stastney and Blankenburg got with the 2nd year 1-way could work - and could also help dissuade other teams from claiming him on waivers if it came to that?
The difference is they don't have an arbitrator who will give them more like Stastney did. I think Tomasino and Parssinen should just take their $775k. As long as Trotz is even offering them 1-way deals, that is. Having had significant NHL time already means they should already have banked pretty good money... they're not coming off $90k like the minor league guys. Fighting over an extra $100k shouldn't be something they need to do. They're at the next level: fighting to show they belong in permanent roles in the everyday lineup. And that's something they could invest in by taking the $775k deals.Thought del gaizo still had a year under contract. He was drafted a year after Stastney so he should get a little less than Stastney but i wouldnt mind something similar. Maybe a 3 year just to lock him in and not have to deal with it again
825K / 250K
825K / 400K
825K
Parssinen and Tomasino maybe 1x1 each and both 1 way. Would be nice to get down to 925K since we are trying to get as much capspace as possible but i dont know if we can get that low. They both have pretty significant nhl time. Then again McCarron is only 900K so maybe we can get em lower on a 1 year contract but i dont think theyll agree to less than what Stastney just got rewarded on a NHL level.
I used CF pretty much only for what capwages offers. This "overview" for teams. Contracts (length, value), ages, dead cap, non-roster guys.BTW, I don't know if folks have found this site yet or not...? It mimics CapFriendly moreso than PuckPedia's unique layout...
Nashville Predators | Salary cap and contracts
capwages.com
The one problem I see with this one is it doesn't seem complete. Puckpedia has the NMC info listed for the recent signings while Capwages does not.BTW, I don't know if folks have found this site yet or not...? It mimics CapFriendly moreso than PuckPedia's unique layout...
Nashville Predators | Salary cap and contracts
capwages.com
F those offer letter mofos.Why do I have a feeling Nashville is going to make a trade with Philadelphia
F those offer letter mofos.
Id take morgan frost or Oliver Bonk. If Kolosov wants out like rumors suggest, they may have interest in Askarov.Why do I have a feeling Nashville is going to make a trade with Philadelphia
Because Morgan Frost would look good in a Preds uniform.Why do I have a feeling Nashville is going to make a trade with Philadelphia
I think he's a really solid #4 if he's being asked to do nothing but play positionally sound defense. Probably his ideal usage honestly.Hey guys, Edmonton fan popping in. I was just looking at your cap situation and I have to say it’s quite impressive the roster Trotz has put together with almost 12M in dead cap.
That being said, it seems like ideally they might want to shed some cap to give themselves a little breathing room. Reading through your threads it seems like Fabbro is sliding down the depth chart and could possibly be a cap casualty.
I haven’t watched a ton of Preds hockey but when I do he’s a guy who always catches my eye. He seems like a smart defender who’s good positionally and has a good stick. Seems poised with the puck, maybe doesn’t have the offensive upside that was hoped for when he was drafted but seems to have a decent first pass and ability to start a breakout.
Seems like his best play came when he was playing in a supporting role with Josi and I’ve wondered if he could be a good partner in a similar role to help bring some stability and cover a bit for Nurses chaotic and sometimes brain dead style of play. He would be our #4 playing 18 a night or so and be one of our PK RD. Wouldn’t need much from him offensively but really need a dependable defender who’s got a decent transition game but more importantly can excel both in transition defending and in zone with a partner who can get a bit loose sometimes.
How do you guys think Fabbro would fit in a role like that on a team like Edmonton?
Return would really depend on if Nashville is taking cap back or sending Fabbro’s full cap hit without taking anything back. More than likely the Oilers would be sending Ceci out in a separate deal to create the space for Fabbro.I think he's a really solid #4 if he's being asked to do nothing but play positionally sound defense. Probably his ideal usage honestly.
What's the return?