Nashville Predators Talk - 2024/2025 Season

[nine_inch_fang]

Wouldn't matter, because the Preds don't run the lottery.

That's right, Chicago does.


Has there ever been a time that Josi was out of the lineup that the team suffered or actually played worse? He wasn't even the number one Dman until, what, 2019? Just looking at that and the trajectory of this team since then maybe 2+2 will start to equal 4 for more people.

Josi isn't good for this team in his current capacity. He should not be the captain and he damn sure shouldn't be give free rein to run around the ice doing whatever the hell he likes.

Sure, I realize the team still sucks and isn't winning games but it's easier to watch.

 

[Kat Predator]

Wouldn't matter, because the Preds don't run the lottery.

The lottery is specifically designed to disincentivize trying to be the worst intentionally.

You may have to back the Titanic up into the iceberg again and again to get that 1OA.

The real benefit to being the worst intentionally or just through incompetence, whatever the case, is to be able to put in those season ticket renewals the advertising "Not Mushy Middle!"

 

[101st_fan]

Losing McDonagh hurt this team. He was one of the few players that could pair with Josi and make things work ... the stability to Josi's rover tendencies. Him asking for a trade was an indicator.


Wilsby spending over 16 minutes alongside Lauzon isn't a recipe for success. Lauzon is going to turn it over, get out of position chasing a hit or trying to be a forward, and we're then left with one defender.

 

[glenngineer]

Josi is the least of our problems. When I see defensemen consistently the third man skating into the zone it's a system issue. Most guys don't have the speed or offensive ability to make anything happen whereas Josi can create. Schenn leads the rush at least once a game, which should never happen. The only one who is any good at it outside of Josi is Wilsby. He'll go to the middle looking to get his shot off whereas most everyone else goes down the boards and ends up behind the net.

 

[darth5]

I sometimes think the Preds have some curse on them with regards to the Draft. Never ever are they in position to draft a home run FORWARD pick. Legwand was the highest pick I remember, and he was not exactly fire. Internally they seem to develop equivalent 2nd/3rd line players tops. Aside from Forsberg (acquired via infamous trade), no real forward top tier picks. They have picked some late round hits. D and G is another story altogether.

We've seen the perils of Free Agency (long heavy contracts). Poile never did, but Trotz should have been pushing scouting and development REALLY HARD. That is my #1 concern. You build a team by maximizing at the draft. Someone tell me I'm wrong, please!

 

[glenngineer]

I sometimes think the Preds have some curse on them with regards to the Draft. Never ever are they in position to draft a home run FORWARD pick. Legwand was the highest pick I remember, and he was not exactly fire. Internally they seem to develop equivalent 2nd/3rd line players tops. Aside from Forsberg (acquired via infamous trade), no real forward top tier picks. They have picked some late round hits. D and G is another story altogether.

We've seen the perils of Free Agency (long heavy contracts). Poile never did, but Trotz should have been pushing scouting and development REALLY HARD. That is my #1 concern. You build a team by maximizing at the draft. Someone tell me I'm wrong, please!

You build thru the draft and build a good team OR use those players to improve your team via trades. Florida had 3 drafted and developed players on their Cup winner. That's crazy to think about.

 

[Armourboy]

Eh we tend to forget but we haven't been totally devoid of drafting really good forwards, it's just usually there is another decision to go with it.

Hartnell was a really good forward, but fire sale.
Arvy was pretty dang good but injuries.
Hornqvist was definitely awesome when you consider his draft spot, but traded.

Smith would be a tier down but wasn't a top pick either.
Fiala pretty good, couldn't get along with Lavi.

Truth is though we didn't exactly have a ton of forward picks early on, they spent a lot of draft capital on defensemen and our history shows that.

 

[glenngineer]

Eh we tend to forget but we haven't been totally devoid of drafting really good forwards, it's just usually there is another decision to go with it.

Hartnell was a really good forward, but fire sale.
Arvy was pretty dang good but injuries.
Hornqvist was definitely awesome when you consider his draft spot, but traded.

Smith would be a tier down but wasn't a top pick either.
Fiala pretty good, couldn't get along with Lavi.

Truth is though we didn't exactly have a ton of forward picks early on, they spent a lot of draft capital on defensemen and our history shows that.

Erat was the best forward we ever drafted as he was a good top 6 forward who we traded for Forsberg.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

So, I know the answer is a new coach or GM, or "everything", but aside from those, what does everyone think is our biggest need?

Defense? A Center? More youth?

 

[glenngineer]

So, I know the answer is a new coach or GM, or "everything", but aside from those, what does everyone think is our biggest need?

Defense? A Center? More youth?

Biggest need of every team is a 1C. You can pretty much get everything else but the 1C is the hardest to come by. Some teams even have two of them and won't share, buggers they are.

 

[Armourboy]

Biggest need of every team is a 1C. You can pretty much get everything else but the 1C is the hardest to come by. Some teams even have two of them and won't share, buggers they are.

Agreed its 1C. The reason teams tank is to try and get a 1C. There is absolutely no other reason to do it.