Nashville Predators Talk - 2024/2025 Season

[triggrman]

Either way, it's mind numbing to think that they've drafted that many centers in the last 40ish or so years and had the depth they had twice in that time period. My point was, we've never sniffed a center via drafting and while it's common knowledge that's where you start building your team, our GM's have not done well in this area.

Check this out - sort on position, centers should appear first. Then sort by GP, that's interesting too.

List of Nashville Predators draft picks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wow so the only true drafted center in the top 20 for us in number of games played is Legwand.

 

[Predsanddead24]

Although as we've seen in the past, the Preds tend to be good at creating self-fulfilling prophecies with these guys too... sit them for weeks, or make them walk on eggshells thinking that one little miscue will put them on the bench, and then see what happens when you throw them in to a game after that long. It might take longer than 5 games. But that's not ever going to happen. He'd be lucky to last 5 shifts, unfortunately.

Yeah the way we've handled Parsinnen has just been bizzare. He's played 5 minutes this season and while he had some rough plays he also had an assist. If we have that little confidence in him coming out of camp we should of just tried to see if we could get him through waivers. I can't see how him sitting in the press box and playing as the extra guy in practice is going to somehow make him better. Same goes with Tomasino to an extent too but at least he got a couple games worth of opportunities.

Would be curious to see that factoring in QoC. No doubt the 4th line has been shipping goals against, but I suspect they also may be facing stronger opponents than, say, Tomasino.

I believe Tomasino's GAs came when playing on the 4th line so not sure that QoC is the explanation. FWIW too related to the discussion in the other thread he's played 7 minutes with Novak and Evangelista and they had 1 GF and 0 GA. Incredibly small sample sizes with all of this though so tough to make any strong statement either way.

 

[herzausstein]

Yeah the way we've handled Parsinnen has just been bizzare. He's played 5 minutes this season and while he had some rough plays he also had an assist. If we have that little confidence in him coming out of camp we should of just tried to see if we could get him through waivers. I can't see how him sitting in the press box and playing as the extra guy in practice is going to somehow make him better. Same goes with Tomasino to an extent too but at least he got a couple games worth of opportunities.

I believe Tomasino's GAs came when playing on the 4th line so not sure that QoC is the explanation. FWIW too related to the discussion in the other thread he's played 7 minutes with Novak and Evangelista and they had 1 GF and 0 GA. Incredibly small sample sizes with all of this though so tough to make any strong statement either way.

I think part of 4th lines issue has been square peg round hole type of issue.

Tomasino isnt a match for the kind of game they play. Noone scored against the 4th line with L'Heureux there. 1 game sample size i know but Parssinen had 4 goals against in 1 game on the 4th line. That game also at one point tried 3 centers (McCarron, sissons, and Pars) with 2 of them playing out of position and not having much practice time as a line as well.

I think if Bruno put Toma and Pars in places to succeed they might but he has an idea of what he wants with the other lines.

March and Stamkos together. Stamkos shouldnt be a center and Toma isnt. Im not sure why we havent attempted Pars here but Bruno may feel like Pars isnt a NHL level center.

Forsberg, ROR, and Nyquist isnt to be messed with and Jankowski, Novak, Evangelista need to be together i guess.

Leaves the 4th line and neither Toma or Pars fit in an identity line. If Bruno is going to be inflexible, then there isnt much room for toma or pars

 

[beardawg]

Trotz is about to put a waiver claim on Conor Sheary isn't he?

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

I believe Tomasino's GAs came when playing on the 4th line so not sure that QoC is the explanation. FWIW too related to the discussion in the other thread he's played 7 minutes with Novak and Evangelista and they had 1 GF and 0 GA. Incredibly small sample sizes with all of this though so tough to make any strong statement either way.

Right, super small sample size. I guess I was wondering if the 4th is getting caved against superior competition or just by everyone in general so far.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Trotz is about to put a waiver claim on Conor Sheary isn't he?

No cap space.

 

[Kat Predator]

All of this is fair. However, when you have guys like McC and Smith on the ice for 9 goals against and 1 for, I don't see the logic in how they keep a spot that a younger player could accel in.

Agreed.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

No cap space.

Well he already went a smidgin over the Cap bringing up L’Heureux (maybe … unless two weeks of pro-rating a couple roster spots managed to sneak under?)… so he may already just be taking the same position as Philly that Johansen is terminated. Johansen WAS terminated. It’s only if he wins his case and gets reinstated that something comes back on the Cap. (Maybe that will be pro-rated down by a month as well?)

So it’s not 100% impossible maybe that Trotz could spend more of that space. I just don’t see him doing it on Sheary who seems to be cooked?

 

[glenngineer]

Right, super small sample size. I guess I was wondering if the 4th is getting caved against superior competition or just by everyone in general so far.

If you watch, they'll be out against the top line right after we're done on the PP. Outside of that, I'm not sure how those matchups are going but we scored and they came right back with an opportunity against the 4th line and I believe it was Carrier and Lauzon. If that's going to be the matchup, they'd be better served to use ZLH on PP2 and have Sissons come out after a score or PP time to match up better against the other teams first line.

 

[PredsV82]

I know every fanbase makes jokes about their coach refusing to play young guys but it's crossed the line of parody at this point.

Fabbro has the best xG% of any defenseman on the team! Sissons has the worst (min 40 mins ice time)! What are we doing??

I'm ready for Fabbro to find another home and blossom into a solid top 4 Dman and just skate by the preds bench with the double bird salute to Bruno.

 

[Scoresberg]

From 32 Thoughts:

"1. Know you love the rumours, but it is early. This is the 'we’re-still-seeing-what-we’ve-got' phase. Predators GM Barry Trotz has the second-best hockey radio hit on The Game in Nashville. On Tuesday, he told hosts Willy Daunic, Derrick Mason and Adam Vingan, “No one is trading anyone right now. I would like to get a centre, but no one is giving their centremen away.”

Two toughest things to find: a stud defender and a top centre. No more zero in the win column after Tuesday night, where they opened with Colton Sissons between Jonathan Marchessault and Steven Stamkos."

It is truly baffling to me that he would say this without even taking a look at all his internal options..

 

[Armourboy]

From 32 Thoughts:

"1. Know you love the rumours, but it is early. This is the 'we’re-still-seeing-what-we’ve-got' phase. Predators GM Barry Trotz has the second-best hockey radio hit on The Game in Nashville. On Tuesday, he told hosts Willy Daunic, Derrick Mason and Adam Vingan, “No one is trading anyone right now. I would like to get a centre, but no one is giving their centremen away.”

Two toughest things to find: a stud defender and a top centre. No more zero in the win column after Tuesday night, where they opened with Colton Sissons between Jonathan Marchessault and Steven Stamkos."

It is truly baffling to me that he would say this without even taking a look at all his internal options..

That's what is blowing my mind on all of this. It's not that Parssinen tried and failed, they haven't even given him a chance to fail at the position. This smells of a coach and GM that are so in love with their boys on the 4th line that they can't even imagine sitting them.

If I was him and Tomasino I'd walk in and ask for a trade, and if I was Fabbro I wouldn't just be asking quiestly, I'd scream it from the rafters.