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Raccoon Jesus

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Oct 30, 2008
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I'm just here to spout my pipe dream of

Josi/Doughty
Anderson/Clarke
Gavrikov/Spence
Edmundson

No I don't have an offer, haha. But I suspect Blake would trade anything to make this 'the year' since he's running out of equity.
 

Johnsie19

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I know it's wrong. But more accurately, I think it's an argument based off a false premise. Cause literally every player in the league is product of their environment. Every player on this planet plays within a 5 man unit, there will be contributions of course from who they surrounded by and that's the truth for everyone. But this ridiculous notion of the McD effect only gets applied to anyone that plays on the Oilers cause no one else has a McD. But just cause McD is the best help around, doesn't mean no one else gets help either.

Also, I've seen McD injured and I can see what Drai does away from him. He can carry the team all by himself too you know and has proven that many times in the past. Even in games where McD is healthy but he isn't playing well that night, which happened alot in his early years, especially his first playoff run, I saw Drai carrying the team as the defacto best player.

I don't blame anyone if they can't see it though. I've watched every single minute of McD and Drai's careers, to come to these conclusions.
Of course every player is affected by his linemates and teammates and even team structure. McDavid is just kind of the example the theory taken to its furthest degree because he's the best player. Just look at Stamkos away from Kucherov too. I think you'd agree that one was pretty predictable because he didn't even look good analytically.

I agree Draisaitl is all world too. But he benefits hugely from McDavid taking the no. 1 match up. Doesn't mean he can't or doesn't carry the team at times too.
 

glenngineer

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Of course every player is affected by his linemates and teammates and even team structure. McDavid is just kind of the example the theory taken to its furthest degree because he's the best player. Just look at Stamkos away from Kucherov too. I think you'd agree that one was pretty predictable because he didn't even look good analytically.

I agree Draisaitl is all world too. But he benefits hugely from McDavid taking the no. 1 match up. Doesn't mean he can't or doesn't carry the team at times too.
For whatever it’s worth, Stamkos has looked much better over the last 5 games now that he’s centering Forsberg and Marchessault. Not really sure why it took so long to try this combo but it’s working. It’s a small sample size but all three seem to be clicking. The only thing that isn’t working is Fil putting the puck in the net. He is racking up the assists.

I’m not even going to enter the Josi/Bouchard discussion. Haha.
 

TheNumber4

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Of course every player is affected by his linemates and teammates and even team structure. McDavid is just kind of the example the theory taken to its furthest degree because he's the best player. Just look at Stamkos away from Kucherov too. I think you'd agree that one was pretty predictable because he didn't even look good analytically.

I agree Draisaitl is all world too. But he benefits hugely from McDavid taking the no. 1 match up. Doesn't mean he can't or doesn't carry the team at times too.
The thing about Stamkos is that he’s been in that complementary tier of players for a while now. His reputation lasted far too long, and his drop away from Kucherov was expected. In fact I called him being a carried by Kuch long before we saw the results in Nashville. He was a one tee hammer, and mostly just that for Kuch to set up.

Draisaitl is a driver though himself though. The impression is that he’s also a one tee hammer, but he’s more than that and more than just McD can set him up for that. Drais playmaking is at an elite level, and he scores in many various ways. So the comparison falls apart there.
 

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