Speculation: Nashville plan moving forward
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We're drafting top 3 rn and have 4 additional top 50 picks this year and a top prospect pool.
"Grandpa" Forsberg is 30 and a ppg there's plenty of gas left in that tank.
"Grandpa" Forsberg is 30 and a ppg there's plenty of gas left in that tank.
Yeah we for sure should get a decent center prospect this season to go along with Svech, Surin and Edstrom. Molendyk and Gibson are both good defensive prospects.
What we lack is a coach that would know how to use them.
What we lack is a coach that would know how to use them.
Sure Forsberg isn't that old but at 30yo it's worth questioning what level he'll be at by the time Preds dig themselves out of the current mess.
It is worth the conversation, but plenty of stars play at a high level during their 32+ years. But he does have high trade value as well. I want to see him with whomever we draft first and foremost.
Porter Stoutheart
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Until the team fires the coach and Trotz shows a willingness to make sure that deserving youngsters play bigger roles than veteran AHL grinders, we're not going anywhere. We'll just keep drafting guys, then watching them stall out and vanish on waivers when they come off their ELCs and still don't have any defined role on the team.
herzausstein
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If we bring Bruno back next year, then the is no plan
Short term. Bring in a coach that can run an aged, veteran roster and get the most out of them as well as integrate a few young players.
Long term. Hope that Trotz figures out how to be a GM or go get one of Briaebois, Zito or McCrimmon’s right hand guys to run this franchise, clear out all the nepotism in the front office, steal the scouting department from Dallas, find the next Cooper, Maurice or DeBoer to coach the team.
Long term. Hope that Trotz figures out how to be a GM or go get one of Briaebois, Zito or McCrimmon’s right hand guys to run this franchise, clear out all the nepotism in the front office, steal the scouting department from Dallas, find the next Cooper, Maurice or DeBoer to coach the team.
+100 to everyone saying Bruno and Trotz have to go.
I forsee a really bad 3-5 years in front of us from a win/loss perspective, just about regardless of what we do. Given that, I prefer we trade guys like Saros and Forsberg for young, NHL ready pieces and lean into the youth movement. Not fully try to lose, but get notably younger while keeping a few veteran leaders around and building draft capital and a top-tier prospect pipeline.
I forsee a really bad 3-5 years in front of us from a win/loss perspective, just about regardless of what we do. Given that, I prefer we trade guys like Saros and Forsberg for young, NHL ready pieces and lean into the youth movement. Not fully try to lose, but get notably younger while keeping a few veteran leaders around and building draft capital and a top-tier prospect pipeline.
glenngineer
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Having the additional picks means nothing as this is a weak draft so while it was exciting to accumulate the draft capital, the team didn’t a crappy job of which drafts they should’ve gotten the capital in. Another major blunder.
Let's wait until we actually do something with them before we declare the draft another major blunder. There's still another 30 games in the season and a trade deadline to get through.
glenngineer
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Every scouting service and anyone in the know has said this. Outside of the top 7-8 and then another small bunch until about 15 it’s slim pickings. Could there be a gem in there, sure but getting a shit ton of picks in a shitty draft is a blunder. It’s hard to be optimistic when you’ve seen what this organization has done recently and you go, why did you do the things you did?
The weakness of this draft is basically that picks 20-40 are on par with 40-60 last year. It’s not that guys we take in late 1st or 2nd aren’t good prospects, they are just going about a half round higher than last year (which had great depth).
Further, it’s likely that both Preds and teams we dealt with knew this was weaker draft and that was baked into the value we received.
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We're in the top 7-8 though and have the ammo to get into the top 15. There are moves Trotz has made that are worthy of criticism, but this isn't one of them. We don't even know what players might be made available that we can use our other firsts to acquire. We're months away from the draft.
Armourboy
Hey! We suck!
Drafts are drafts, you use the picks you have and hope for the best, just like every other year.
It feels like this is the new draft analysis every year. "This one isn't great, but next year will be one of the best!" And then next year comes and it's the same thing.
But the truth is, almost every single draft is the same outside of the top 3-5 players. There will always be a couple of late 1st rounders who surprise, and there will always a few guys in round 2 who everyone thinks "how was he not a 1st rounder?" And then there is always a handful of gems from 2-7 that everyone passed by several times, as they just develop later.
I posted it several years ago and would have to dig for it again. But basically, if you look at the odds to get just 200 NHL games out of a draft pick, the first overall pick is basically guaranteed, the second overall pick is close to that, the third a little further. Then picks 4-5 fall off a pretty good amount, but still have reasonable expectations to play 200... Then the bottom falls out from 5-10, and anything after that is almost pure luck that you find the 200 game players.
Welcome to HF! We may appear to be a bit dysfunctional, but it's all a love/hate relationship, everyone here is a solid Preds fan and okay people, but we will argue like middle schoolers!
Porter Stoutheart
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Just look at the bottom end of the draft order... we're not even at the Trade Deadline yet, and already 9 of the last 13 picks in the 1st round have been traded. The odds are pretty good that several of the remaining ones will be also in the next few weeks. Heck, the pick Columbus got from Minnesota could be traded again too. Teams have been bailing en masse from these picks for a long time.
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Welcome! Happy to have you aboard. Please stick around and post often.
For me, I'd primarily focus on young talent and our prospect pool. We have a very good farm and tons of upcoming picks. I do think we have good vets who can help, but they shouldn't be the primary focus.
We do have an armchair GM thread where a lot of "what would you do" is discussed. I'll leave it up to the board if they want this merged or not.
