Value of: Nail Yakupov vs Kris Versteeg

[Liferleafer]

Why don't you tell us why he's a bum? A recent two time Stanley Cup champ thought he was worth enough to acquire at the deadline last season. So please enlighten us why he's a "bum" ....who's made more money in a season than you probably have in your entire life

I'm a Leafs fan, his stint here was bum worthy at best.

 

[ManofSteel55]

You do realize that more than half the league is guys who are career "complimentary" players. Not that I'm a Versteeg fan but at least he has been complimentary, that's far more than Yak has done this far.

What each guy has done in the past doesn't mean a damn thing. What each guy can do this season and moving forward is what counts, and based on Versteeg's most recent body of work, he isn't an NHL talent anymore.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Steeger was getting top line playing time on a better team(still bad team) last year than Yak.

Being gifted top line minutes doesn't mean he was effective there. Put Yakupov on the top line all year instead of relegating him to the third line once he returns from his injury and his stat line looks much different too.

 

[SaintMorose]

Yakupov all day, there's a reason Versteeg gets moved out of every locker room he enters.

 

[garyturner3]

I'm a Leafs fan, his stint here was bum worthy at best.

35 points in 53 games is far from being a bum. It was also enough for the Leafs to turn into a 1st and 3rd at the deadline. You get a single late round pick for a bum, not returns like that.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Yak all day, every day.

Not because I think much of Yakupov, but because I hold a very negative opinion of Versteeg.

 

[Liferleafer]

35 points in 53 games is far from being a bum. It was also enough for the Leafs to turn into a 1st and 3rd at the deadline. You get a single late round pick for a bum, not returns like that.

Points aren't the "anti-bum"....Versteeg was a total A-hole in the room.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

15:23 per night, but 1:46 of that was on the PP.

His stat line is similar to Brock Nelson, except Nelson scored a lot more goals.

Nelson:
81 games
26 goals
40 points
15:48/night
1:46 on PP

Versteeg:
77 games
15 goals
38 points
15:23/night
1:46 on PP

Well I stand corrected. But I wouldn't touch versteeg with a 20 foot pole. Just never liked him as a player. I think if your signing him then you're either extremely desperate or he's signing for nearly the league minimum. Some Devils fans want him but I want nothin to do with him

As for the topic give me yak and his potential all day. I have wanted him on the Devils big time if he came cheap enough. I still believe in him.

 

[ClydeLee]

Being gifted top line minutes doesn't mean he was effective there. Put Yakupov on the top line all year instead of relegating him to the third line once he returns from his injury and his stat line looks much different too.

So for hte one you aren't in favor of it's gifted but not deserved? I don't get how long Yak will be given hopes and praises for potential when every scenario that is supposed to change it for him doesn't like losing Eakins or getting better center's to play with.

While Yak had another disappointing season since his rookie year Versteeg was on top of him in stats and he still preformed better than most players on his team. His corsi and production on his team and regards to Yak last year were better. Based on Steegers most recent body of work if he's not an NHL talent Yakupov isn't either, but his value is much more there apart from the potential.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Ottawa would likely prefer Versteeg for the experience and more of a known quantity.

The fact that Versteeg only costs money rather than money AND assets to acquire is also a big deal here. Yakupov having been so very mediocre so far doesn't help his case.

 

[mashedpotato]

oh how far the mighty have fallen.

Yak now being compared to Versteeg.

Bravo.

 

[Gentle Man]

2011 Versteeg was awesome in Florida.

Yakupov was awesome in 20??

 

[BatVader]

Very interesting to see the split in opinion. Makes me wish I'd added a poll.
For me this choice comes down to team expectations.
-If you are contending or hoping to, Versteeg is your best choice as he's proven and cheaper, leaving money for TDL tweaks.
-If you are rebuilding or on the road back up after one, Yakupov is your choice as he will need time to get his game going and costs more, including the cost of acquiring him.

 

[Ben Matlock]

Versteeg only costs $, and probably less than Yakupov.

 

[billybudd]

2011 Versteeg was awesome in Florida.

Yakupov was awesome in 20??

I haven't liked Versteeg's game at all since he hurt his knee(?) in Florida.

That said it's amusing that people are tossing 'bum' around in reference to Versteeg and mocking what he's accomplished recently in a thread where the alternative is Nail Yakupov. If Versteeg's a bum, now--and he might be--that makes Yakupov way, way below bum status.

 

[Taytro]

2011 Versteeg was awesome in Florida.

Yakupov was awesome in 20??

2012... 31 points in 48 games is pretty good for a rookie. That's pace for 53 points in a full season.

Edit: This was before he was tainted and his confidence fell. Not arguing Yak is better now but he had a good showing his first year. In fact that rookie pace ties versteegs best seasons.

 

[Gentle Man]

I haven't liked Versteeg's game at all since he hurt his knee(?) in Florida.

That said it's amusing that people are tossing 'bum' around in reference to Versteeg and mocking what he's accomplished recently in a thread where the alternative is Nail Yakupov. If Versteeg's a bum, now--and he might be--that makes Yakupov way, way below bum status.

Hip I think.

He put up 54 in 71 on a team THIRSTY for goals lol

 

[snipes]

...and now they are competing for a spot on the Oilers roster. Competition is a good thing.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

I'd still love to have Yakupov in Vancouver if we didn't have to give up good young players or top roster players (Tanev/Edler for example) to get him.

He's got skill, and he's still young I think he can figure it out and be a good offensive player but he needs a change of scenery badly & the longer he toils in Edmonton the clock will just keep ticking on his upside.

I'd be very interested to see what he could do alongside Horvat & Virtanen. I think his speed and aggressiveness (along with his natural skill of course) could be a good complement to those guys who have those things aswell but play a different game.

 

[Vitto79]

Surprised they can't atleast get a 3rd fur yakupov . I'd just move him at this point

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Provided the Oilers actually making Yak available... but I'll take Versteeg over Yak for the short term.

Oilers are in "win now" mode (believe it or not) and don't have time for Yak to continue to figure it out...its now or never for Nail, that said, you know what your getting in Versteeg.

The oilers aren't in win now mode the highest or lowest depending on how you look at that that they have drafted since 2009 was 7th

They drafted 10th in 2009

That's not a win now team

Chicago the Pens, TB, Dallas, LA hell even Calgary these are win now teams

You are not.

 

[McWeber]

The oilers aren't in win now mode the highest or lowest depending on how you look at that that they have drafted since 2009 was 7th

They drafted 10th in 2009

That's not a win now team

Chicago the Pens, TB, Dallas, LA hell even Calgary these are win now teams

You are not.

When your team has missed the playoffs for 10 years straight and you have Mcdavid on an ELC you better be in win now mode.

 

[canuckslover10]

I'd still love to have Yakupov in Vancouver if we didn't have to give up good young players or top roster players (Tanev/Edler for example) to get him.

He's got skill, and he's still young I think he can figure it out and be a good offensive player but he needs a change of scenery badly & the longer he toils in Edmonton the clock will just keep ticking on his upside.

I'd be very interested to see what he could do alongside Horvat & Virtanen. I think his speed and aggressiveness (along with his natural skill of course) could be a good complement to those guys who have those things aswell but play a different game.

I don't think Edmonton fans are asking for Edler or Tanev that would be dumb of them the asking price for yak is probably a 2nd and a prospect but since they traded hall they might as well roll the dice on yak and finally give him a real chance since Dallas left. But I think yak would be a good fit in vancouver we need a top 6 winger he has the potential for it and we can be patient because let's face it we suck atleast for 2 more years unless markstom turns into hasek and carries the Canucks but I doubt it.

 

[belair]

Yakupov was awesome...??

...on Ralph Krueger's team with Sam Gagner.

...on Todd Nelson's team with Derek Roy.

...on Todd McLellan's team with Connor McDavid.

Give Yakupov a creative center and a longer leash and he'll produce.

As for Versteeg, it never hurts to give him a shot.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

When your team has missed the playoffs for 10 years straight and you have Mcdavid on an ELC you better be in win now mode.

They are not you need to be at certain level as a team before you are in win now mode you miss the playoffs for 10 years you aren't there