Speculation: My Dude. It's early.

[Ianturnedbull]

The Leafs have only played 9 games. 4-4-1 is not terrible.

Berube is still figuring out this team. There's still tinkering going on. Certain players haven't even played yet. The Bottom 6 Defense has not been decided on. Woll is in no way 100%. He only played 3 periods of hockey in preseason.


Many media analysts felt that TOR would take some time with a new coach/new system.

There's a lot of hockey left. TORONTO has to finish strong.

Just be cool.

Judge who they are at game 20 and not game 9.

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[BallardEra]

Maple Leafs’ struggling offence has coach Craig Berube mulling changes to the Core Four

The Maple Leafs finally got a statement game from Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner. Then, overtime happened.

www.thestar.com

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Maple Leafs’ struggling offence has coach Craig Berube mulling changes to the Core Four

The Maple Leafs finally got a statement game from Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner. Then, overtime happened.

www.thestar.com

Pay wall.


Wall pay.

 

[BallardEra]

Ugh. I don't pay for it but sometimes I luck out.

 

[freshwind]

a new coach usually takes at least 30 games to have the guys fully understand his system in my view .... we will have a much better idea come closer to the holidays ...

 

[DarkKnight]

I felt a slowish start was going to happen. And like I say every year, it's freaking October relax, people won't even remember these games in March. We're in the hunt, I like this team on paper, I think the style he wants is winning hockey, particularly in our division.

The over the top takes here aren't reality, chill imo.

 

[Confucius]

It is early but 10% of the season gone already, have to be at least 41 and 32 the rest of the way. So we do have to be better

 

[Larcos_Unal]

Nobody is freaking out cause it's game 9, people are freaking out cause it's 7/8 years of the core being a disappointment. Hayes called it a long time ago:

 

[NVious]

It's 9 years of this, I mean shouldn't they get SOME kind of a bump at some point:

New coaches
New GMs
New captains
New forwards
New D
New goalies
New contracts
New systems

None of it has any effect because the core itself is rotten. I know people hold out hope because of the Caps, but they finished:

4th/1st/2nd/15th/9th/17th/10th/1st/1st/7th (year they won the cup), unlike the Leafs who NEVER dominated the league in 9 years

And they also got rid of Semin/Green/Varlamov which was their previous core.

These dudes just don't have it, I'm not even sure if Matthews could lead a team. I have no doubt all of them would be excellent complimentary pieces (outside of Tavares who is a 3rd/4th liner now), but they just don't have the psychological makeup (Matthews/Marner) or the talent (Nylander/Rielly) to be THE guy and all of them are just not THAT good (outside of Matthews).

Personally I'm at the point where I am totally fine with moving on from any/all of them. When you compare them to McDrai or Crosby/Malkin or any other great core, they don't compare at all when it comes to the playoffs. All of them are paid like the best players in the league, but in reality they are more complimentary 1st liners than they are some superstar that can carry a team to a cup.

 

[rumman]

Nobody is freaking out cause it's game 9, people are freaking out cause it's 7/8 years of the core being a disappointment. Hayes called it a long time ago:

 

[Commander Clueless]

My dude, you're right. It's early.



...but also, we've watched this one before.



Maybe Berube can change the channel. Maybe not. Time will tell.

 

[GoonieFace]

20 game mark should give a better idea…but we have seen this group before and they haven’t been able to do get over the hump…not sure this year will be any different

 

[Evilhomer]

20 game mark should give a better idea…but we have seen this group before and they haven’t been able to do get over the hump…not sure this year will be any different

I think 40-50 games is more appropriate. Think of Maurice in Florida. It takes time.