Proposal: Mtl / Tor
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HockeyVirus
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Leafs would have kept the better player in Hyman if they wanted to pay a winger like that. Anderson is trash defensively and not what the Leafs need. He is sold as a power forward in reality he is a rush winger who can't stay healthy.
Gravity
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Habs get bent. We'd be able to fetch a 1st for either separately. Niemela alone isn't remotely worth that given Kerfoot is of no use to us given our core age and Holl is just a cap dump.
Habs Halifax
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I think Hyman was a good guy to try to retain. Agreed there. However, I think your assessment on Anderson has exaggeration. My advice is to avoid using narratives like "trash defensively".
I don't like this trade so I'm only talking about what you said towards Anderson. Anderson frustration is consistency but if you really pay attention, he has multiple gears and raises his game in the playoffs. Certainly not a prefect winger and and I will agree with that.
Don't confuse yourself with what media and fans say. Actual Habs management is not desperate to trade Anderson. It's neither a value contract or a bad contract.
HabsAddict
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Andy and Edmy are worth a mid 1st each. Period.
This trade is sending quality for middling return. Hard pass.
Just another fan fantasy NHL2000 trade.
This trade is sending quality for middling return. Hard pass.
Just another fan fantasy NHL2000 trade.
General Fanager
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If you follow the Leafs section of these forums Holl and Kerfoot are basically cap dumps at this point
Habs hard pass. They can do better elsewhere and trading them separately.
Habs hard pass. They can do better elsewhere and trading them separately.
HabsAddict
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Calling Andy trash defensivly is more of a troll post then any discussion.
I can’t fathom Toronto having any interest in this.
Anderson’s contact is one you’d allocate to a core player. Toronto needs to allocate cap space better than an inconsistent winger. That’s not where their roster deficits are best addressed with what minimal cap space they have.
Anderson is a long term commitment. He’s going to be difficult to deal. And no that doesn’t mean he’s negative value. It does means the options to trade him are quite finite.
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I feel like there is a pretty huge variability in how people view Anderson's worth.
Some see him as worth a mid 1st, some see him as a bad contract with too much term.
Edmundson I could see getting a 1st, though. I think I'd rather keep Topi and look at trading for Connor Murphy, personally.
Some see him as worth a mid 1st, some see him as a bad contract with too much term.
Edmundson I could see getting a 1st, though. I think I'd rather keep Topi and look at trading for Connor Murphy, personally.
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TheGroceryStick
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Good luck to all Leaf fans trying to get a good conversation when HOLL /KERFOOT are in the trade.
Good luck to all non-Leafs hoping to see any other players out of Leaf proposals.. Both (and Engvall) are the likely candidates.
Good luck to all non-Leafs hoping to see any other players out of Leaf proposals.. Both (and Engvall) are the likely candidates.
What's next ? Criticize McDavid for skating too fast , Tom Wilson for being too tough , Tage Thompson for being too big or Cale Makar for being too skilled ? I don't mind fans being critical of players but it has to at least make sense . Andersons brand of hockey is what got him to the NHL and it's what keeps him there , but I'm willing to bet that if he had a maple leaf on his chest you guys would defend him to no end just like you defend guys like Kerfoot , Nylander and Marner .
Bouboumaster
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Justin Holl is trash bro, who are you trying to convince here?
It's a hockey forum, everybody on this site has a minimum of knowledge on the sport, we all know who Justin Holl is and how much suckage he brings to you. Edmunson is f***ing Bobby Orr in comparison of Justin Holl.
Kerfoot is "ok" but we are already ok and we roll the dice on Monahan as our 3rd line center. Monahan at his best blow out of the water anything Kerfoot ever did in his life
Niemela is fine, but look at our prospect bank, and tell me: where does he fits in?
Edmunson and Anderson are 6'4" and 6'3" monsters. Edmunson, when healthy, is a premier defensive defenseman (you know it, your team experienced him a whole bunch) and Anderson is an unstoppable force when he's at full speed. Not the best hands, but he's A+ for zone entries.
You should think before posting.
Habs refuse this trade, obviously, because it's shit
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ole ole
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ole ole
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Holl right now Sucks. Go on your own board. They can't say anything good about him.
We have no need nor want Kerfoot. We wouldn't take him for free.
The prospect listed isn't near enough.
This is an EASY NO for the Habs. no natter how you try to slice it.
Grand Admiral Thrawn
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This trade is awful for the Habs!
The other part to this is that Toronto can’t afford Anderson’s contract.
The other part to this is that Toronto can’t afford Anderson’s contract.
Dion TheFluff
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all I was saying
I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with the way he plays. All I was saying was players who play that aggressive & physical brand typically end up burning our faster than other styles of players.
5 x 5.5 is far to big of a risk for Anderson IMO. Especially considering that he already has injury history.
I think Thats a false narrative , power forwards have long productive careers just like other players , do they sustain injuries ? of course they do but the ice ballerinas and perimeter players also suffer their fair share of injuries as well and I hate to break it to you but a large percentage of NHL players have an injury history and trying to diminish a players value because of that history just seems petty to me .
Not really interested in Anderson, that contract isn't going to work with our structure any time soon and he's got a career high of 45 points. He's a decent player, but 5.5m is too much for what he brings. If we were going to try and bring in a 3rd liner who hits and score big goals, we're going to get someone cheaper or better. Scoring big goals and hitting is awesome, and I have no doubt he will continue to torch the Leafs. Wrong contract.
Edmunsen seems like a decent pickup. If we were to go after him, I'd rather it be a Lightning style deal where the Habs retain half and take a decent asset. Wouldn't go too crazy on the value there, but I wouldn't be against him and at 50% he'd be an intriguing asset.
Edmunsen seems like a decent pickup. If we were to go after him, I'd rather it be a Lightning style deal where the Habs retain half and take a decent asset. Wouldn't go too crazy on the value there, but I wouldn't be against him and at 50% he'd be an intriguing asset.
