MTL-PIT

[Pens2thecup871]

To MTL:
Rickard Rakell
Vasily Ponomarev
2025 3rd Round Pick

To PIT:
Kirby Dach
Arber Xhekaj

What needs to be added/taken away from each side to get a deal done?

 

[RationalExpectations]

To MTL:
Rickard Rakell
Vasily Ponomarev
2025 3rd Round Pick

To PIT:
Kirby Dach
Arber Xhekaj

What needs to be added/taken away from each side to get a deal done?

Habs are short at center, any Dach trade proposal needs a C coming back.
Habs don‘t have a lot of tough players and Xhekaj is the best of them, so he likely won t be traded.
I don t think a deal is to be made here.

 

[Qwijibo]

Montreal is finally finding their way and are 10-2 in their last 12. Why would they make that trade and take on a 31 year old player that doesn't fit the rebuild at all?

 

[Tanknation]

To MTL:
Rickard Rakell
Vasily Ponomarev
2025 3rd Round Pick

To PIT:
Kirby Dach
Arber Xhekaj

What needs to be added/taken away from each side to get a deal done?

Gross

 

[HabsAddict]

Garbage trade.

NEXT....

 

[bud12]

Habs will keep Xhekaj and Rackell doesn't really fit even though he's a good piece

 

[BLNY]

To MTL:
Rickard Rakell
Vasily Ponomarev
2025 3rd Round Pick

To PIT:
Kirby Dach
Arber Xhekaj

What needs to be added/taken away from each side to get a deal done?

Everything. Scrub it. No way Montreal does this.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

To MTL:
Rickard Rakell
Vasily Ponomarev
2025 3rd Round Pick

To PIT:
Kirby Dach
Arber Xhekaj

What needs to be added/taken away from each side to get a deal done?

Right. Habs definitely not moving Xhekaj

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

What needs to be added or removed?
Remove Dach and Xhekaj and add Rakell, Ponomarev and the 3rd round pick back to the Pens.

 

[wej20]

I don't watch a lot of Habs but what is Dach's deal? Looks like he's put good 3rd line numbers while not PKing and being terrible on the dot. Does he project to be a 2nd line centre?

Definitely wouldn't trade Rakell right now, he'll end up with 30+ goals, 60+ points this season.

 

[Empoleon8771]

This deal sucks for the Penguins, getting younger doesn’t mean anything if you’re getting way worse doing it. A tough guy bottom pair D and a struggling former high pick is a crappy return for the Penguins.

Rakell is on pace for like 40 goals and 70 points this year, he alone should be able to get a way better return than this from a contending team.

 

[Qwijibo]

I don't watch a lot of Habs but what is Dach's deal? Looks like he's put good 3rd line numbers while not PKing and being terrible on the dot. Does he project to be a 2nd line centre?

Definitely wouldn't trade Rakell right now, he'll end up with 30+ goals, 60+ points this season.

He missed all of last season recovering from knee surgery. He was awful to start the season and looked like he was afraid to take any contact. He seems to be getting his confidence back and is starting to look like the player they hoped he'd be when they acquired him

 

[FerrisRox]

To MTL:
Rickard Rakell
Vasily Ponomarev
2025 3rd Round Pick

To PIT:
Kirby Dach
Arber Xhekaj

What needs to be added/taken away from each side to get a deal done?

Take away Rakell, Ponomarev and the 3rd round pick, then cancel the trade.

 

[Gurglesons]

No interest in this as a Penguins fan.

 

[Treb]

Montreal does not need wingers.

Montreal needs a top6 C and a top4 RD.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

Maybe it’s fair because both Habs and Pens fans are pissed off by this proposal?

 

[Captain Mountain]

Montreal would not be in the market for any of these players. Rakell is to old to fit what Montreal's rebuild plan and plays the wrong position for who Montreal's looking for, Montreal doesn't need mid round picks and Montreal's got lots of prospects like Ponomarev.

 

[bud12]

Maybe it’s fair because both Habs and Pens fans are pissed off by this proposal?

Value aside, habs doesn't need those pieces at all while they need Dach/Xhekaj

 

[Qwijibo]

Maybe it’s fair because both Habs and Pens fans are pissed off by this proposal?

Or maybe it doesn't fit either teams needs

 

[Empoleon8771]

Maybe it’s fair because both Habs and Pens fans are pissed off by this proposal?

The value sucks for the Penguins and the players don't make sense for the Habs.

 

[Prairie Habs]

The value sucks for the Penguins and the players don't make sense for the Habs.

Only if you value rackell exclusively off his career year half season he's having and not on the rest of his 700+ game career. He's a good second liner, not a consistent 40 goal scorer. He hasn't broken 30 goals in 7 seasons and he was only half a point per game last season. Let's not go nuts.

 

[SEALBound]

Only if you value rackell exclusively off his career year half season he's having and not on the rest of his 700+ game career. He's a good second liner, not a consistent 40 goal scorer. He hasn't broken 30 goals in 7 seasons and he was only half a point per game last season. Let's not go nuts.

Great, now tell us about Kirby Dach...

 

[HuGo Sham]

Gross

To MTL:
Rickard Rakell
Vasily Ponomarev
2025 3rd Round Pick

To PIT:
Kirby Dach
Arber Xhekaj

What needs to be added/taken away from each side to get a deal done?

nope. The entire deal needs to be taken away and thrown out. Mtl doesn't need a 31year old winger and undersized C with 6 goals in the AHL. Yes Rakell is best player in deal but habs aren't trading a lot of their size and toughness - not a coincidence pens fan.
0 interest from habs.. none

 

[Empoleon8771]

Only if you value rackell exclusively off his career year half season he's having and not on the rest of his 700+ game career. He's a good second liner, not a consistent 40 goal scorer. He hasn't broken 30 goals in 7 seasons and he was only half a point per game last season. Let's not go nuts.

Even if you value Rakell like his normal career self, this deal still sucks for the Penguins. It's a struggling former high draft pick and a bottom pair tough guy that would likely be in the coach's dog house. Xhekaj has value because NHL GMs grossly overrate toughness, but Dach isn't an attractive piece right now.

The value sucks for the Penguins because Dach and Xhekaj aren't appealing assets to the Penguins and the value sucks. You don't pull off a 25 goal, 55 point top-6 winger having a terrific year for that, especially with the team adding on top of the winger.

If we were valuing Rakell as the 40 goal, 70 point winger he was on pace for this year, this offer would get laughed out of the room by Penguins fans.

 

[bud12]

Even if you value Rakell like his normal career self, this deal still sucks for the Penguins. It's a struggling former high draft pick and a bottom pair tough guy that would likely be in the coach's dog house. Xhekaj has value because NHL GMs grossly overrate toughness, but Dach isn't an attractive piece right now.

The value sucks for the Penguins because Dach and Xhekaj aren't appealing assets to the Penguins and the value sucks. You don't pull off a 25 goal, 55 point top-6 winger having a terrific year for that, especially with the team adding on top of the winger.

If we were valuing Rakell as the 40 goal, 70 point winger he was on pace for this year, this offer would get laughed out of the room by Penguins fans.

You didn't watch Xhekaj this year. He's way more than a tough guy