Confirmed Trade: [MTL/LAK] 2024 1st (21OA) for 2024 1st (26OA), 2024 2nd (57OA), 2024 7th (198OA)

[kyne]

Critical draft sounds like « most important election ». Being said every 4 yrs.
All drafts are important.
Especially when you draft 1, 5 and 5 in consecutive years.

I'm thinking the Habs likely won't be drafting this high again for quite some time and there is a critical need for a young elite forward of the type only available via the draft. With this in mind, it is a critical draft in many ways more so than some other years. They might not get a chance at a Demidov or Lindstrom again soon so it's worth exploring the possibilities of making this a sure thing.

 

[JoeSakic13]

Uh, what incompetency?

If Montreal did in fact trade up to draft Letourneau……THAT incompetency.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

Cursed draft position

since 2000, best player drafted at that spot is Matt Stajan in '02?

 

[Frank Drebin]

21 OA not 210A please

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Such an odd trade without seeing who is on the board. If you're trading 2 2nds get into the lower 20s, sure. But giving up a 2nd to jump 5 slots seems shortsighted unless you know who is or is not on the board, no?

Purely hypothetical example - MON is REALLY excited by 2-3 guys (Hage, Stolberg, Greentree, etc.) who are all ranked around 20. By making this deal you're almost 100% likely to get one of the guys that you think is a large tier above what you're likely to get at 27. Then you look that about 10% of the players drafted in the late 2nd round ever have NHL careers of note, and that the Habs have more high round DP's than likely contracts spots, and the deal makes sense.

Honestly - same idea for the Sharks. They moved up 3 spots and likely guaranteed themselves a chance at one of the top 6 d-men in the draft (or Eiserman, YMMV) that they likely wouldn't have gotten at 14.

I'm a Hawks fan. Over the next 3 drafts they've got 12 picks in the top 2 rounds. TWELVE! That's literally insane, and that is why they moved a 2nd to the Isles to move up 2 spots in the 1st round and 4 spots in the 2nd. They're going to have more prospects than contract spots.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Great job by LA to take advantage of Montreal's incompetency here.

A penguin / caps fan applauding kings front office

Sometimes its just too much

 

[JianYang]

Why? What a waste for Montreal when we don't even know who will be available. Worthless.

I think teams have certain Intel about whether the guy they are targeting will be available.

If you really like that particular player relative to who else is on your list around that range, then you get a scenario where you will pay to move ahead.

 

[Boyon90]

If Montreal did in fact trade up to draft Letourneau……THAT incompetency.

Coming from mc incompetent

All onboard the eiserman train

 

[De Montreal]

Did McKenzie list became so reliable that teams now knows exactly the landing spot of their target? This is crazy to me to see so many draft picks swap this early.

 

[JoeSakic13]

Coming from mc incompetent

All onboard the eiserman train

I hope for their sake they draft Eiserman or if someone drops into their lap.

If that rumor is true though, yikes.

 

[General Fanager]

Seems to me that this is part 1 of HuGos moves today/tonight

 

[Gnashville]

Did I Miss the draft? This is the type of trade that is done after a few picks are made and you know who is available weird

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

What do you mean?

The picks are actually almost perfectly even value using past pick swaps.

In fact they are so even it makes me wonder if the GMs themselves use a similar pick valuation process to determine pick swap value.

don't give the capitals any ideas.... they'll buy that pick valuation system for themselves

 

[General Fanager]

I hope for their sake they draft Eiserman or if someone drops into their lap.

If that rumor is true though, yikes.

Considering the source.....nearly 100% bogus.....

 

[HFpapi]

Are GM's just bored and trying to justify their existence right now?

Can't wait 'till pick #29 + #121 get traded for pick #28 cause ya just never know who's going to be available there.

I'm willing to bet that by the time you get to pick #21, teams draft boards are all over the map. Some teams have a guy pegged at 21 that other teams have in the late 40's. This seems so pointless to me, honestly.

 

[amnesiac]

21st+Barron for McGroarty????

 

[JianYang]

Seems to me that this is part 1 of HuGos moves today/tonight

Year 1 of hugo at the draft was him grabbing dach for a 1st rounder... in order to do that, they traded Romanov for a 1st

Year 2 of hugo at the draft was trading a couple picks for newhook

Year 3 at the draft is a draft swap..... so far.

maybe it's a repeat of what he did in Year 1, but those Romanov/dach moves were announced in conjunction. I think they just really like someone in that draft slot.

 

[Ezpz]

Did I Miss the draft? This is the type of trade that is done after a few picks are made and you know who is available weird

Teams talk. Likely someone between 22-25 likes the same player Kent Hughes did at 26.

 

[General Fanager]

Year 1 of hugo at the draft was him grabbing dach for a 1st rounder... in order to do that, they traded Romanov for a 1st

Year 2 of hugo at the draft was trading a couple picks for newhook

Year 3 at the draft is a draft swap..... so far.

maybe it's a repeat of what he did in Year 1, but those Romanov/dach moves were announced in conjunction. I think they just really like someone in that draft slot.

sure that's possible but that kind of deal usually happens when the pick is about the happen and the player they want is there.

I mean right now no one has a clue who will or wont be available at 21....

 

[Frank Drebin]

Are GM's just bored and trying to justify their existence right now?

Can't wait 'till pick #29 + #121 get traded for pick #28 cause ya just never know who's going to be available there.

I'm willing to bet that by the time you get to pick #21, teams draft boards are all over the map. Some teams have a guy pegged at 21 that other teams have in the late 40's. This seems so pointless to me, honestly.

Players between 21 and 30 are not interchangeable

Id rather pick first and let the other teams take the leftovers rather than the other way around.

if the cost is 57 oa to move up 5 spots I’ll give up both our second next year and 21 for 10 oa

 

[JianYang]

sure that's possible but that kind of deal usually happens when the pick is about the happen and the player they want is there.

I mean right now no one has a clue who will or wont be available at 21....

That's a good point that those deals are usually announced closer to the moment, but I do think teams have a certain degree of Intel about which team likes what player within their drafting range.

 

[jellybeans]

Montreal don't really need more picks. Something is up.

They gave away 3 picks for this pick

 

[BayStBullies]

That's a great return for the Habs

 

[HFpapi]

Players between 21 and 30 are not interchangeable

Id rather pick first and let the other teams take the leftovers rather than the other way around.

if the cost is 57 oa to move up 5 spots I’ll give up both our second next year and 21 for 10 oa

If you were to look at each teams draft board and who they have ranked 1-21, I bet between the 32 different teams there would be 45-50 unique names. It's ridiculous for the Habs to think they have any accurate notion of who will be available at 21 but not 26. There's way too much variance.

If they get up there to draft 21 and realize they have a handful of guys on their board still available that they rate pretty equally they will realize it was a waste of extra picks to move up.

57th isn't an amazing pick or anything but you never know when you're drafting the next Patrice Bergeron in round 2.

I'm not even saying it's a bad trade in terms of too much value given up it's just how pointless it is in my mind. Like seems like something you do just because you're bored and want some action. It's a total mystery as of now what you traded up for.

 

[AcerComputer]

Weird how there are 3 trades to move up in the first round before anyone is picked. Must be a big drop off after certain number of picks.