Confirmed Trade: [MTL/EDM] Brandon Davidson for David Desharnais (20% Retained)
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THall4
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No Oiler fan has ever said this we all knew his ceiling was a #4 Dman.
Lmao is Giordano supposed to be good? McDavid made him his ***** in the 4 games they played this season.
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No...I'm not Beaulieu's biggest fan either but anyone expecting Davidson to replace him is clearly overestimating Davidson's capabilities...IMO.
LaP
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No. But fans in Montreal are like this. They chose a cancer and they stay with it until he is traded.
Beaulieu is the new Brisebois. Why? Your guess is as good as mine. It's this way don't try to understand. He's gonna be a 30-35 points dman with an okay frame. He's not using his frame much and he is not very good defensively. Still great skating ability and can move the puck out of the zone. Under the right price and paired with a good stay at home dman he's a serviceable depth pmd to have around.
Would be very surprised if Beaulieu is benched for Davidson more than a game or two to try Davidson and see what we have.
Davidson looked really promising and solid when the Oilers had **** defense. Now that the Oilers D is functional, he hasn't shown very well at all (yes, injury, I know). But Nurse and Benning, the other young up-and-comers (both 3 years younger than Davidson as well mind you) have shown that they are above Davidson in the depth chart. That puts Davidson sitting in the press box with Gryba. Why do we care that Davidson is gone for something of value instead of for nothing at the Expansion Draft? And for those whose response will be "now we have to lose ANOTHER asset in expansion"... yeah.. the worst case scenarios now are losing Khaira, Kassian, or Letestu. I like all three, but come on now. Khaira is not an NHL regular yet, Kassian while providing a lot of energy and he clearly likes playing for Edmonton is still a bottom 6er, and Letestu is a 4th line center. Big ****ing deal.
If DD comes in and proves his underlying numbers, this is a huge win for Chiarelli. Along the lines of (but likely less of a gap in expectation) the Maroon trade.
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Very unsteady. The first pairing job with Weber was open to him at the start of the season and he goofed up. He can be quite good one game, and terrible the next one.
After 4 years at NHL level, he is a big question mark, still.
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No, Beaulieu hasn't been bad this season by any stretch. In fact, I'd even say Beaulieu has benn playing pretty good overall this season.
The only thing about him that drives Habs fans to show dissatisfaction is that he is quite frustrating to watch at times because of inconsistency.
For every 10 games he plays, 3 or 4 he looks like a solid top 4 D even possibly top 2, 3 or 4 he plays like a good #5-6 and the other games he looks like an AHL defenseman,
One minute he tantalizes with solid two-way play and looks like a stud on our defense, the other minute he plays either average or just really bad and makes people lose hope in him.
In the end, all the uncertainty about Beaulieu's play from one game to another makes people angry about him and unsure about what he will solidify himself as in the future (top 2, top 4, top 6, AHL, make up your mind already!), leading most fans to underrate Beaulieu and some vocal few to want him shipped out.
I'm of the opinion that with time and experience Nathan Beaulieu will eventually figure out his game at the NHL level and settle in in-between a high-end top 4 to a high-end top-6 guy and shoudn't be mentionned in trades given our overall weakness at the LD position.
THall4
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Desharnais sounds like our Schultz equivalent from last year. I'd be surprised if he doesn't bounce back and be a decent contributor with us. I can see him being good with Pouliot and the two actually have some PO exp.
Davidson is a quality depth dman, Edmonton has just had so few of these he's over-rated into some kind of difference maker. He's not expansion exempt, doesn't have much value.
If we got a middle round pick for him it would be fine, which is around what you'd expect to trade for Desharnais with 20% retention. If there is value for one side on this, it's not much.
Davidson is a quality depth dman, Edmonton has just had so few of these he's over-rated into some kind of difference maker. He's not expansion exempt, doesn't have much value.
If we got a middle round pick for him it would be fine, which is around what you'd expect to trade for Desharnais with 20% retention. If there is value for one side on this, it's not much.
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Enough of us got overly excited about him. The guy can play. He can play above bottom pairing. He looked like a top pairing D for an amazing 20 game stretch when the team was out of contention.
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I think you completely missed the point of my post. I specifically pointed to them looking at vets on expiring contracts. Its just my opinion, but I'd assume LV's strategy will to be acquire a massive quantity of assets. And at the moment, their biggest asset is cap space, especially with a flat cap. Target young, cheap players. For reaching the floor, target veterans on expiring contracts that can be moved as rentals for picks and prospects. If teams want to move guys with term, make them pay for it (a la Bickell + TT).
Looking at Letestu, Fayne, Reinhart, etc. just makes more sense. Pouliot doesn't really make sense as a vet with term acquisition.
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This was a good move by Montreal. Davidson is one of those good young players that are under everyone's radar. He has his flaws, but his good qualities are his two way game and his hockey IQ. There's a limit to how bad he can be. There's also potential for him to be a real standout. He was a amazing last year. This year, he was worse, but he was coming off injury so it's hard to say if that was a true slump.
We were also pressed to move Davidson. A lot of his value is not proven enough yet. Cap space is becoming really critical for us, and Davidson is signed next year at a number far too high if he ends up as a 7th D. We have a ton of D depth now (still no #1D though).
As for Desharnais, you never know with a change of scenery. He will have a limited role for us. I'm a bit disappointed we could get more of a sure-thing for our 3C but I think Chia has shown he can spot low cost gems. I'm optimistic about DD
We were also pressed to move Davidson. A lot of his value is not proven enough yet. Cap space is becoming really critical for us, and Davidson is signed next year at a number far too high if he ends up as a 7th D. We have a ton of D depth now (still no #1D though).
As for Desharnais, you never know with a change of scenery. He will have a limited role for us. I'm a bit disappointed we could get more of a sure-thing for our 3C but I think Chia has shown he can spot low cost gems. I'm optimistic about DD
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Yep, if he plays even 50% of our remaining games like he played tonight, I have 0 issues with this trade.
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DD plays well when he's hungry, thanks to Daddy Therrien he hasn't had to work for a meal in about 3 years and got lazy. Its not a trade I'd ever regret even if he went on to score at a PPG pace the rest of the year, he absolutely wasn't going to do that for us and helps us add some size and depth. If Davidson is replacing anyone might be Emelin after the turd he laid against the Rangers
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What the heck Habs fans? Desharnais was our best offensive threat in the bottom 6 tonight. Fast, made about 6 tape to tape passes to shooters in position and didn't look like he was doggin it at anytime. I hope your scouting of him was as bad as your scouting on Roy sarcasm:
But anyways is Davidson drawing in on the Habs lineup any time soon?
But anyways is Davidson drawing in on the Habs lineup any time soon?
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Desharnais has unfairly been blamed for a lot of things the last few years. He is a solid complimentary player with great vision.
He has been blamed for what he is not (a top C) instead of judged for what he is (a 3C)
Best of luck to him.
He has been blamed for what he is not (a top C) instead of judged for what he is (a 3C)
Best of luck to him.
Sounds like you Justin Schultz him to the point he gave up on the team Like Schultz blamed for everything . He gets trade and looks good
Well how will your opinion change if Desharnais plays 2ND C pushing Draisaitl to wing.
Davidson probably never sees more than a couple games. I think he was just a warm body to replace Pateryn on the bench.
Post-trade performance boost. DSP was a top-6 player also.
Also 2 in 11 on faceoffs.
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DD was surprisingly good lastnight. Showed very good vision and patience with the puck. Didn't try anything fancy, didn't over complicate things, just did enough to find a proper passing lane and get it to the slot. Caggulia had a number of beauty opportunities. Like how that line clicked - Kassian steamrolled on the forecheck, Drake and DD cycled quick to get an open look.
Only one game, but I'll gladly take more of that.
Only one game, but I'll gladly take more of that.
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