You've doubled down on absolutist language multiple times in this thread. You also arrogantly insisted you knew better than both Jackets and other Habs fans what Columbus's needs actually are:
So no, you didn't say "trash", but you've been very disrespectful throughout regardless.
Okay so 2 absolute cap dumps in Gallagher and Anderson are available that's a newsflash.
"[Laine's agent] Andy Scott told him multiple times that we will make sure we look at everything and know the situation, and we know Patrik's feelings and we can find the right fit, certainly we will do that. But, if not, we'll have to just deal with it." - Don Waddell
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No one expects us to get much for Laine. Treating psychological problems is not a piece of cake. But that doesn't mean we have to take on bad contracts (for example Anderson) and prospects that we don't need (mean quality).
No, I'm saying that if you're going to get all offended and demand respect for your players that you not also arrogantly try to explain to Jackets fans what our own team's needs are and condescendingly make up strawmen and mock us with them.
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They need an established, 2nd pairing defensive LHD.
To take on Laine, a contract likely has to go back the other way to make it work. That’s fair if you aren’t interested in someone like Anderson, but that’s the kind of swap at least from a Montreal perspective that we’d likely be looking to do if we are in fact interested. I think Anderson is overpaid but he’s also still a good stop gap player as well.
The rule of thumb w/r/t sending a contract back in a Laine trade is that AAV is acceptable and understandable (within some reasonable limits), but term is a nonstarter.
Laine has only one problem. NHLPA program.
Laine at least as if not a little bit more than the second best offer. The motivation here is that Laine needs to move on not that he is core player who moves if the team acquiring regrets the trade on 1 forward..If all the offers are there are reasons for it.If you think that whatever the Habs offer is garbage and that is the best offer on the table do you risk an asset that maybe in declining value?
Waddell has already said that they are going to keep him if they can't find a deal that works.
More baseless rumors of Laine's work ethic and attitude, y'all need to find some new material to work with.
If that is what the market values him at then that us what his value is.Other teams are allowed to give better offers then whatever the Habs would offer.
This is all fine. Everything I’m reading from insiders is that Laine wants to move on and when players are in that mindset, they typically force their teams hand. Laine does not care about what Columbus gets in return of trade value as a player. He just wants to move on. If you sit on it, you risk the asset decreasing further or creating a dysfunctional situation in the locker room. He’s a risk to any acquiring teamfor many reasons so if you think you’re going to get some big haul him, especially at almost a $9 million cap hit, my personal opinion is you’re setting yourself up to be disappointed.Laine has only one problem. NHLPA program.
Unless of course you consider a concussion, broken collarbone, sprained ankle (came back earlier), etc. to be chronic injuries.
In 2021/22 he had (if converted to 82 games) 82 points including 38 goals, center - Jenner, in 2022/23 78 points including 33 goals, center Roslovic, defensemen Peeke, Gudbranson and Berni.
Yes, he also played with Gaudreau, but Gaudreau made him worse while he made him better. He plays very well without the puck, defensively, led his line, not dependent on teammates.
A lot of what I read here is complete nonsense. I understand that Columbus is not a popular team, but Natural Stat Trick exists.
Btw, no one can expect him to play great in October and November, he hasn't played in a long time, even now he's rehabbing. But I'm sure he'll play great from New Year's at the most.
I very hope Patrik changes his mind and stays in Columbus. But if he doesn't, his new team will get a great player. Who can play great even in the PO unlike unnamed stars from an unnamed team.
As soon as someone's argument about a Jackets asset starts with something like this I know it can be safely ignored, because that's been the rallying cry of debunked ripoff proposal after debunked ripoff proposal for Jackets major players for the last decade plus and not once has it been right. Granted, Kekalainen is no longer the GM so the guarantee is no longer there, but I suspect that the issue is less about who's in the captain's chair and more about "lol Jackets" so I'm pretty confident it's going to continue to be bullshit.
We really need to make an ongoing list of what trades we been told "would never happen/your never gonna get the first" the past 10-15 years and everyone gets a surprised Pikachu face when it does and just months later they do the whole routine over again. If anything we are the ones who fleece in trades historically. Most of our issues come in retaining/signing FAs
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