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Confirmed Trade: [MTL/CBJ] Patrik Laine, '26 2nd for Jordan Harris
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It's not $17M, but $16.2M if his $2M bonus has already been paid by Colombus.
If not, it's $18.2M.
Cap wise, it's $17.4M in any scenario.
Having a player signed at a (UFA) market value contract does not provide positive value yes. It provides net 0 value.
What is genius about having a larger budget than the other bottom feeders?
Presumably those players have to be replaced if MTL is trying to win (playoffs) next year in 25-26
Leveraging the capspace for picks and for talent that will help other players (Dach) develop. He leveraged Sean Monahan and now Laine. If you can put your capspace to work while rebuilding and garner picks and talent, that is an effective GM.
Clearly your jealousy of the Habs deep pockets is showing...
What's the story behind this ?
He played pro 5 more years (or 6 if you count that 80-81 season).
Bonne chance Patty. It will be a comeback for the ages if he turns back into a 40 goal man.
Once again, the risk is MTL, assuming, based on what I have been told by virtually every habs fan, when they plan on trying to compete for the playoffs in 2025-26, will have an extra 10 million dollars on their 25-26 cap sheet because they acquired laine.
If Laine doesn't turn out, you'd much rather have that 10 million dollars ELSEWHERE for a team who again, I have been told will be trying to compete
4.2M in retention doesn't get replaced. lol
Dvorak/Armia/Savard get replaced by the likes of Demidov and Beck and Mailloux/Reinbacher/Barron.
Habs are unlikely to cmpoete in 2025-26. The D is way to young to compete in that time frame. Habs will continue to build by getting experience for the young players.
The 8.7M of Laine's caphit won't have any impact at all this season or next. Habs will still have a ton of capspace. After price is LTIR'd they still have 8M of capspace that they won't use this year. And if Laine produces.. then great for the Habs.
Preach!
I'm trying my best, but, with some people, it's like rowing in quicksand.
You can't have it both ways.
If you aren't competing, then having laine provides 0 benefit since you only have control over him over the next 2 years. (and if you trade him for I assume a 1st, 16 mill is a hefty price to pay for a 1st+2nd)
And if you are competing, then the cap hit matters
Its tough work educating folks who don't understand the basics of a rebuild. But keep up the good fight!
The horror of the Habs using 8.7M of the available 17M in capspace. Mon dieu!
Who could have imagine trading Jordan Harris (a good D by the way) for a 1st + a 2nd ?
And 16 million dollars, don't forget that part.Who could have imagine trading Jordan Harris (a good D by the way) for a 1st + a 2nd ?
That's really short sighted. Habs young talent like Dach and Newhook need a top line talent to solidify a second line. Having talented players help with their offensive development (and overall development).
Its a win-win for the Habs. Development win and potential to compete if the stars align (unlikely).
And in 2 years time, if Laine produces, who's to say he doesn't re-sign for a team friendly deal, having found a home. Or if not, its a placeholder for Demidov who arrives next season. Plus, there is the potential to trade Laine (with retention) for a haul if he produces.
It opens so many possibilities for the Habs. All it cost was capspace the Habs weren't using. And somehow Hughes pilfered a 2nd on top of it all. lol
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Remember when the Coyotes were mocked by everyone for taking on older players and bad contracts for picks and basically being the NHL's retirement home?
Laine takes away opportunity for young players.
In fact, he's likely to take away opportunity from one of Juraj Slafkofsky or Kirby Dach on PP1
Wouldn't that be more or less $14M (or more or less $5.3M) ?
Trade deadline this year: $7.1M x 3/4 = $5.325M
Trade deadline next year: $7.1M + $9.1M x 3/4 = $13.925M
See how that neatly ties in with a previous post of yours where you asked "What is genius about having a larger budget than the other bottom feeders?" ?
As I previously wrote, the genius is in how you're using that larger budget...
And how exactly does this apply to this thread ? Logically speaking ?Remember when the Coyotes were mocked by everyone for taking on older players and bad contracts for picks and basically being the NHL's retirement home?
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Somehow I missed this when it happened, but holy wow.
My first reaction- uh, Laine is cool with that media pressure? Ok.. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but seems he hasn’t liked places, and MTL fans and media are, uh, passionate!
Best of luck to him, but not enough to make MTL good.
My first reaction- uh, Laine is cool with that media pressure? Ok.. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but seems he hasn’t liked places, and MTL fans and media are, uh, passionate!
Best of luck to him, but not enough to make MTL good.
I just want to hear @Scintillating10 opinion on how much of a winner Laine is.
For the record Habs fans I like the move. Just based on stuff he’s said he certainly shouldn’t like it. I want to see this spin zone.
Stay tuned everyone…
For the record Habs fans I like the move. Just based on stuff he’s said he certainly shouldn’t like it. I want to see this spin zone.
Stay tuned everyone…
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Remember when the Coyotes were mocked by everyone for taking on older players and bad contracts for picks and basically being the NHL's retirement home?
Except Laine is 26, still very talented and Montreal will be the youngest team in the NHL next season.
That being said, who knows what Laine will show up when the season begins. Let's hope he puts on a good show, right?
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Any instance of adding talent to a roster can possibly disrupt existing lines and TOI opportunities. What’s your point? Florida added Tarasenko at the trade deadline, they changed their PP deployments… mon dieu, sacré bleu, c’est impossible!
Slafkovsky is signed long term, so what if players better than him form the first PP unit — what does it hurt? Does it hurt Slafkovsky to have to earn, on merit, PPTOI?
Kirby Dach is coming back from a long term and serious injury, not a surprise he won’t get PP1 time until he shakes the rust off. Again, what’s the point — do you want a team that plays its best performing players or a team that doesn’t believe in merit?
I’ve scrolled through and read your arguments and each is more specious and desperate than the last. What’s your point?
