(MTL) Arber Xhekaj has been fined $3,385.42

[notbias]

Did Perry owe the Leafs a fight after the Tavares injury in the playoffs? Because they came knocking, twice if I remember correctly. And he answered the bell. Hockey code.

No he didn't, it was a dumb fight.

Most fans thought it was dumb, I am pretty sure most teammates thought it was dumb too.

 

[bud12]

Xhekaj is an objectively better player in every measure but we all know what your agenda is here so have fun being stuck with Reaves

What' funny his even with only 50% of Reaves gp, he would still have more TOI than him. And the guy probably don't even know that Reaves wasn't even in the nhl at Xhekaj age.

 

[Michoulicious]

Just have Reaves and Xhekaj get it over with on the first shift on Oct 9th, then get back to playing hockey.

I think Xhekaj is going to go knee on knee on one of the Leafs stars, and THEN he'll fight Reaves.

This is going to go bad, quick IMO

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I think Xhekaj is going to go knee on knee on one of the Leafs stars

Zero chance this happens

 

[notbias]

I think Xhekaj is going to go knee on knee on one of the Leafs stars, and THEN he'll fight Reaves.

This is going to go bad, quick IMO

I don't think there is a chance he does that...

First, off Laine was a cap dump, not sure why he warrants this much attention.

Secondly, the Habs are much softer than the Leafs, outside of Xhekaj they have Anderson maybe who can hold his own, but that's it.

I don't think it'd go well for the Habs if they start gooning it up.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Xherkaj is a lot younger, he is better currently (still a borderline NHLer), no argument.

He isn't good, and he won't have as good of a career as Reaves, those are both also true.



Okay, glad we agree, Reaves should take on Reinbacher first chance he gets, and if he doesn't want to fight, throw him to the ice and punch him in the back of the head.

Guess if it has to be Reeves so be it, would think there's someone else in the Leafs line up that could tune up the 19 yr old rookie and deliver the message, we don't really have anyone other than X to do our fighting but yes if Reeves came calling and Reinbacher turtled fill your boots

 

[bud12]

I don't think there is a chance he does that...

First, off Laine was a cap dump, not sure why he warrants this much attention.

Secondly, the Habs are much softer than the Leafs, outside of Xhekaj they have Anderson maybe who can hold his own, but that's it.

I don't think it'd go well for the Habs if they start gooning it up.

And the leaf have who outside of Reaves?

 

[notbias]

Guess if it has to be Reeves so be it, would think there's someone else in the Leafs line up that could tune up the 19 yr old rookie and deliver the message, we don't really have anyone other than X to do our fighting but yes if Reeves came calling and Reinbacher turtled fill your boots

This was my whole point.

X is so far out of Pare's league in fighting that it made no sense.

Send the middle-level tough guy to fight a non-fighter.

Is the objective to win the fight or to teach a lesson?

If it is to win, then Reaves makes the most sense and no clue why you'd suggest someone else.

If it is to teach a lesson, then someone else in Montreal should have stepped up instead of X.

 

[JJ68]

Xherkaj is a lot younger, he is better currently (still a borderline NHLer), no argument.

He isn't good, and he won't have as good of a career as Reaves, those are both also true.



Okay, glad we agree, Reaves should take on Reinbacher first chance he gets, and if he doesn't want to fight, throw him to the ice and punch him in the back of the head.

Bro Wifi is a better player than Reaves ever was. Wifi is a steady d man with a great shot, excellent physicality and can play the game. He's perfectly fine. And we love him.

I love him so much that he'd be one of the few guys I'd be upset to lose.

I don't think there is a chance he does that...

First, off Laine was a cap dump, not sure why he warrants this much attention.

Secondly, the Habs are much softer than the Leafs, outside of Xhekaj they have Anderson maybe who can hold his own, but that's it.

I don't think it'd go well for the Habs if they start gooning it up.

Wifi, we got his younger bro, we got Anderson, we got Pezz, and we got Struble. In this day and age that's all you need. Leafs have Reaves. f*** all else.

 

[notbias]

Bro Wifi is a better player than Reaves ever was. Wifi is a steady d man with a great shot, excellent physicality and can play the game. He's perfectly fine. And we love him.

I love him so much that he'd be one of the few guys I'd be upset to lose.

He isn't even a full time NHLer.

Wifi, we got his younger bro, we got Anderson, we got Pezz, and we got Struble. In this day and age that's all you need. Leafs have Reaves. f*** all else.

You listed a bunch of punching bags...



Pezzetta's last fight was a warm-up for his yearly beatings.

Is Florian playing? Are they starting the tank game 1? No NHL fights.

Struble has no NHL fights but looks like he is 1-1 in the minors.

Anderson is the second-best fighter on your team by a mile, it just sucks that he is a 5.5 million-dollar fighter.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

This was my whole point.

X is so far out of Pare's league in fighting that it made no sense.

Send the middle-level tough guy to fight a non-fighter.

Is the objective to win the fight or to teach a lesson?

If it is to win, then Reaves makes the most sense and no clue why you'd suggest someone else.

If it is to teach a lesson, then someone else in Montreal should have stepped up instead of X.

Has been my complaint about our team for a decade, too soft and in our pregame thread I actually called out MSL for seeming not allowing retaliation even when we had some guys that were middle weights in the line up. Anderson is a reluctant scrapper given his shoulder problems, Ghule isn't terrible but light weight and fragile, Struble is strong and can throw a bit, Pezz is a gamer but not going to win or teach a lesson. Gorton built a soft team in New York and was part of him leaving, we have started drafting some bigger kids with some sand paper but yesterday's line ups was closer to the Fellowship of the Ring

 

[bud12]

He isn't even a full time NHLer.



You listed a bunch of punching bags...



Pezzetta's last fight was a warm-up for his yearly beatings.

Is Florian playing? Are they starting the tank game 1? No NHL fights.

Struble has no NHL fights but looks like he is 1-1 in the minors.

Anderson is the second-best fighter on your team by a mile, it just sucks that he is a 5.5 million-dollar fighter.

Anderson would be the second best fighter on your team too. So what???

 

[Leaf Fans]

Reaves is only useful for fighting and Xhekaj is better than him at that as well

Both of those statements are false.

 

[Roo]

This thread is like wow lol

 

[Legion34]

It’s just funny because I sit on a number of disciplinary committees and fines are often the most common form of discipline employed.

Can’t believe you are unaware of this.

If I’m not mistaken you are a medical professional of some description.

If so you would be fully aware of the much higher rate of brain injury/coma/death from direct strike to the base of the skull and realize that this was much more dangerous than a cross check that rides up or even directly to the face.

If they want to change the culture around head shots, they have to make it clear and announce it before a season even begins so that there is a collective understanding of the stakes and the consequences.

In the absence of any kind of announcement or rule change, I’m not sure what you are expecting.

He was assessed 27 minutes in penalties and kicked out of the game. The player was not injured.

Personally, as I said earlier, a one-game suspension is not going to deter a team enforcer from taking matters into his own hands in the event of a perceived dirty play.

It has to be 5 or 10 games for someone to think twice about going after someone who just injured your star player with no penalty on the play.

Headshots and punching someone at the base of the skull/brain stem are completely different and are treated as such in every combat sport.

Grouping them together is ridiculous

 

[berklon]

"My hockey player can beat up your hockey player!"

Goes to show that fighting needs to be removed from the game. You don't see nonsense like this posted by fans of other team sports.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

"My hockey player can beat up your hockey player!"

Goes to show that fighting needs to be removed from the game. You don't see nonsense like this posted by fans of other team sports.

Who cares about other sports? There’s a reason we’re all on a hockey board

 

[Maple Leaf]

"My hockey player can beat up your hockey player!"

Goes to show that fighting needs to be removed from the game. You don't see nonsense like this posted by fans of other team sports.

Fighting? hitting will be removed once the research comes out

 

[Knies iT]

Bro Wifi is a better player than Reaves ever was. Wifi is a steady d man with a great shot, excellent physicality and can play the game. He's perfectly fine. And we love him.

I love him so much that he'd be one of the few guys I'd be upset to lose.


Wifi, we got his younger bro, we got Anderson, we got Pezz, and we got Struble. In this day and age that's all you need. Leafs have Reaves. f*** all else.

lol at naming players that aren’t even going to make your team.

That’s how you know you have a butter soft group.

 

[NyQuil]

If I’m not mistaken you are a medical professional of some description.

If so you would be fully aware of the much higher rate of brain injury/coma/death from direct strike to the base of the skull and realize that this was much more dangerous than a cross check that rides up or even directly to the face.

Headshots and punching someone at the base of the skull/brain stem are completely different and are treated as such in every combat sport.

Grouping them together is ridiculous

Consider that Shane Pinto received 41 games for having someone else lay a bet down for him and you’ll see an actual deterrent that will do something.

The fact that people are upset that it was a fine instead of a single game is laughable to me because neither penalty is going to change anything.

People are talking about deterrence as if a single game suspension will make Arber Xhekaj act differently the next time he sees one of his team's star players lying injured on the ice at the hands of an opposition player.

It won't.

Incentives and punishments are intended to modify future behaviour. We are talking peanuts here, either way.

Pinto's punishment is a pretty clear indication of what the league thinks is important behaviour to alter.

Expecting the league to come down with that kind of hammer on Arber Xhekaj in a pre-season game on a play where no one was injured is pretty naive.

If they do plan to move in that direction, advising the teams that they will be doing so at the beginning of the season would be a clear indication but there are no signs of that happening.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I keep asking this and no one seems to want to answer.

Should Reinbacher have to fight Reaves for shoving Minten into the boards from behind?

If he doesn't want to, should Reaves throw him to the ice and punch him in the back of the head?

Normally someone from that person's weight class tries to fight them...

I can’t give an answer on that one because I didn’t see the incident. No idea what the dynamics are.

What I saw in the Pare/Xhekaj incident was Pare getting about 2 seconds to react after being grabbed from behind, and choosing to turtle instead of try to fight a guy who had the jump on him. That’s fair enough, if he has to answer the bell he should at least have the opportunity to square up. But I don’t think he “owed” a fight, because he didn’t do anything wrong.

I also recognize that the players on the ice didn’t get the benefit of endless replays and debate about the Laine collision, all they knew is that their guy went down hard and Pare was at the scene of the crime. So they’re gonna go after him whether he was at fault or not. That’s all fair play and typical hockey stuff.

I’m a little surprised that Pare didn’t get his gloves off and find a dancing partner once he had a chance to collect himself. That would have put an end to the thing. For whatever reason, there’s this new thing where players seem afraid to drop their gloves in these situations and it comes off as dodging the bell.

Did Perry owe the Leafs a fight after the Tavares injury in the playoffs? Because they came knocking, twice if I remember correctly. And he answered the bell. Hockey code.

I don’t think he actually owed them one, but like last night that was also a situation where the players on the ice hadn’t even had an intermission to find out what had happened. All they knew was Perry was involved so they went straight at him, and he obliged rather than make it a long running thing. One thing we can’t know is whether Pare was offered the chance for a staged fight like Perry and Foligno.

 

[mouser]

I’m sure most of the posts in this thread are joking about how meaningless a $3.3k fine to Xhekaj for a preseason game is, but there is an important detail here.

If Xhekaj does something meriting a suspension in the next 18 months he will be considered a repeat offender and lose a larger % of his paycheck than a non repeat offender would during the suspension.

 

[JJ68]

Has been my complaint about our team for a decade, too soft and in our pregame thread I actually called out MSL for seeming not allowing retaliation even when we had some guys that were middle weights in the line up. Anderson is a reluctant scrapper given his shoulder problems, Ghule isn't terrible but light weight and fragile, Struble is strong and can throw a bit, Pezz is a gamer but not going to win or teach a lesson. Gorton built a soft team in New York and was part of him leaving, we have started drafting some bigger kids with some sand paper but yesterday's line ups was closer to the Fellowship of the Ring

Aragorn can beat anyone's ass bro

Who cares about other sports? There’s a reason we’re all on a hockey board

The only people who care about other sports on here are those who want so desperately to be americanized. Hockey is unique and we love it because it isnt some lame ass american pastime.

 

[End on a Hinote]

For some reason I find the 42 cents just ads insult to injury.

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

It’s a preseason game, who cares about taking players out with penalties?

I don’t think he owed the Habs a fight, but at the same time he could have at least dropped the gloves once his entire line came to his defense. Turtling and then skating around the scene with his gloves on was as non-code as what Xhekaj did, and might well force this thing to spill into the regular season.

He helped his team with no cost paid. The code is over, being a rat is king now. So he did a good job.

Silly things like honour and respect are not in the league anymore.