MrB1P's top 50 affiliated prospects. 5th edition.

[emptyNedder]

Not a single Wild prospect, for a team that is considered to have a solid, though not brilliant, talent pool? No Faber, Ohgren, Yurov, Khusnutdinov ?

I am surprised that so few lists have Faber--he has played in the NHL and appears to be a solid second-pairing D, with top pairing potential. He doesn't have the offensive potential of the D prospects on this list, but he is surely in the top 3-4 for defensive impact.

 

[Mrb1p]

I am surprised that so few lists have Faber--he has played in the NHL and appears to be a solid second-pairing D, with top pairing potential. He doesn't have the offensive potential of the D prospects on this list, but he is surely in the top 3-4 for defensive impact.

He is top 3-4 for defensive impact, as of now. The reality is that defensive impact is nice, but it does not get you in the top echelons of prospects lists.

 

[tnfrs]

Welcome buddies.

I ranked the 50 best under-23 (Non-inclusive.), under 25 games affiliated prospects for another year.

As usual, I do no goaltenders because it is just too much work to analyze goaltenders, especially because they play a lot, there's a lot of them and they're often hidden in random leagues. I'd be happy to provide a list for anyone who cares but yeah, thats it.

Here's a post I made in 2019 that still describes my views on prospects:

Name	Team	Draft	2022 Rank
Connor Bedard	Chicago	2023	ND
Matvei Michkov	Philadelphia	2023	ND
Adam Fantilli	Columbus	2023	ND
Leo Carlsson	Anaheim	2023	ND
David Jiricek	Columbus	2022	5
Simon Nemec	New Jersey	2022	4
Logan Cooley	Arizona	2022	10
David Reinbacher	Montréal	2023	ND
Zach Benson	Buffalo	2023	ND
Pavel Mintyukov	Anaheim	2023	21
Matthew Wood	Nashville	2023	ND
Will Smith	San Jose	2023	ND
Simon Edvinsson	Detroit	2022	9
Cutter Gauthier	Philadelphia	2022	NR
Luke Hughes	New Jersey	2022	14
Jiri Kulich	Buffalo	2022	NR
Ryan Leonard	Washington	2023	ND
Matthew Savoie	Buffalo	2022	23
Jagger Firkus	Seattle	2022	23
Joakim Kemmel	Nashville	2022	30
Brandt Clarke	Los Angeles	2021	25
Alexander Nikishin	Carolina	2020	NR
Marco Kasper	Detroit	2022	HM
Andrew Cristall	Washington	2023	ND
Dalibor Dvorsky	St. Louis	2023	ND
Frank Nazar III	Chicago	2022	9
Braden Yager	Pittsburgh	2023	ND
Colby Barlow	Winnipeg	2023	ND
Shane Wright	Seattle	2022	2
Jonathan Lekkerimaki	Vancouver	2022	22
Nate Danielson	Detroit	2023	ND
Lane Hutson	Montreal	2022	NR
William Eklund	San Jose	2021	36
Denton Mateychuk	Columbus	2022	31
Luke Evangelista	Nasville	2020	32
Mavrik Bourque	Dallas	2020	26
Logan Stankoven	Dallas	2021	HM
Olen Zellwegger	Anaheim	2021	NR
Matthew Knies	Toronto	2021	NR
Aatu Raty	Vancouver	2021	50
Quentin Musty	San Jose	2023	ND
Brad Lambert	Winnipeg	2022	HM
Joshua Roy	Montreal	2021	45
Tristan Luneau	Anaheim	2022	NR
Ivan Miroshnichenko	Washington	2022
Pavel Dorofeyev	Vegas	2019	39
Mackie Samokevich	Florida	2021	NR
William Wallinder	Detroit	2020	NR
Kevin Korchinski	Chicago	2022	NR
Gleb Trikozov	Carolina	2022	47

Previous lists: I skipped 2021 for... REASONS.
2022
MrB1Ps top 50 drafted prospects
2020
MrB1Ps annual affiliated prospect list 2020 Covid edition
2019
https://forums.hfboards.com/threads/mrb1ps-top-50-affiliated-prospects-edition-2019-2020.2669037/
2018
MrB1P's top 50 NHL affiliated prospects

I can def agree where you have matvei and gauthier I feel could make a case for top 10 but it really depends on preference. I think its safe to say Aatu Raty's not a top 50 guy at this point, I would slot Tyson Foerster in there somewhere between 40-50

 

[Mrb1p]

I can def agree where you have matvei and gauthier I feel could make a case for top 10 but it really depends on preference. I think its safe to say Aatu Raty's not a top 50 guy at this point, I would slot Tyson Foerster in there somewhere between 40-50

Ratys skill and overall play has been superior considerinf their ages. Foerster is close and I debated him from about #30th, he is older and that weighs very little in my evaluation, realistically I dont see Foerster ever exceeding 60, even if he is close to that already.

 

[tnfrs]

Ratys skill and overall play has been superior considerinf their ages. Foerster is close and I debated him from about #30th, he is older and that weighs very little in my evaluation, realistically I dont see Foerster ever exceeding 60, even if he is close to that already.

pretty sure he was drafted same year as raty, and hes outplayed him at every level so far. its hard to watch everybody though but otherwise its a good list

 

[Mrb1p]

pretty sure he was drafted same year as raty, and hes outplayed him at every level so far. its hard to watch everybody though but otherwise its a good list

20 vs 21. Also no, Ratys is ahead at his age.

It is very close between the two though.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I knew he existed, but I just didn't put two and two together that he would have possibly beaten Willander on any lists.
It would be like having Tomas Nosek ahead of Thomas Novak and then shitting on someone for conflating the two because the take is so terrible.

Where I'm from people take responsibility for their own dyslexia

 

[Siludin]

Where I'm from people take responsibility for their own dyslexia

I took responsibility last page, and adjusted my analysis.

 

[wetcoast]

No. And I dont think thats farfetched.

Well if you had Jake Sanderson 33rd last year then sure not having Faber is consitent.....ly bad right?

His skating and defensive skillset pretty much almost guarantees that he will be top 30 from the players in your top 50.

 

[Mrb1p]

Well if you had Jake Sanderson 33rd last year then sure not having Faber is consitent.....ly bad right?

His skating and defensive skillset pretty much almost guarantees that he will be top 30 from the players in your top 50.

Check my list and tell me whos so far out of Sandersons value a year after. Its like below 20%. Id say thats a pretty good list, lmao. Most of those were unanimously ranked ahead of Sanderson by all medias (Wright, Slaf come to mind.)

Even so, Faber is not Sanderson.

 

[jackp0t]

No Ridly Greig ?

 

[Mrb1p]

No Ridly Greig ?

Not far off but no. Dont feel like he overtakes anyone here.

 

[Random Comment]

Check my list and tell me whos so far out of Sandersons value a year after. Its like below 20%. Id say thats a pretty good list, lmao. Most of those were unanimously ranked ahead of Sanderson by all medias (Wright, Slaf come to mind.)

Even so, Faber is not Sanderson.

What? One year later and Sanderson is more valuable than 90% of your list from last year. There aren’t more than 5 players I’d take over him. He looks to be what Jiricek or Nemec would hope for in their first couple of NHL seasons. Let’s put it this way, if Nemec turns into what Sanderson is, the east is screwed.

 

[Mrb1p]

What? One year later and Sanderson is more valuable than 90% of your list from last year. There aren’t more than 5 players I’d take over him. He looks to be what Jiricek or Nemec would hope for in their first couple of NHL seasons. Let’s put it this way, if Nemec turns into what Sanderson is, the east is screwed.

A guy like what? A guy that is great defensively/in transition that produced mid level offense? 9 5v5PPPG aint cutting it. If Nemec and Jiricek were to merely be this, they wouldnt be in my top 10. Theyre going to be offensive driving #1Ds.

 

[Random Comment]

A guy like what? A guy that is great defensively/in transition that produced mid level offense? 9 5v5PPPG aint cutting it. If Nemec and Jiricek were to merely be this, they wouldnt be in my top 10. Theyre going to be offensive driving #1Ds.

If your list ignored defensive ability you would have Luke Hughes above the rest of the D. If a rookie Defenceman produced great defensively and mid-level offense, that’s a fantastic rookie year. Jake Sanderson is tracking to be an elite top pairing D. That’s the PROJECTION for a lot of the people on your list.

 

[Mrb1p]

If your list ignored defensive ability you would have Luke Hughes above the rest of the D. If a rookie Defenceman produced great defensively and mid-level offense, that’s a fantastic rookie year. Jake Sanderson is tracking to be an elite top pairing D. That’s the PROJECTION for a lot of the people on your list.

Tracking is a lot like a projection, dont you think?

What if I think these guys will just be better? Anyhow, if you wanted to debate Sanderson, it was a thing for the other list.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

A bit too high on Reinbacher IMO but the countless draft threads already covered that debate. Otherwise I'd say for a low ranked prospect I'd take Buchelnikov over Trikozov.

 

[Mrb1p]

A bit too high on Reinbacher IMO but the countless draft threads already covered that debate. Otherwise I'd say for a low ranked prospect I'd take Buchelnikov over Trikozov.

Trikozov is a lot "safer" as a player and has a lot more ways he could become a good NHL player. Trikozov is pretty much only as an offensive dynamo. I'd even say that skillwise, there's not much discernible differences between the two.

I'll let it be known that I love Buch 2.0, I think he's exciting and close to the top of the list when it comes to flash, he's not unlike Nazar, Cooley, Wright, Firkus or Lekkerimaki, but I do think he's a slightly worse version of those guys and also, I am not going to lie, but I have less exposure to him than a lot of other prospects.

Nonetheless, I wasn't ranking past 50, but he was in my short list with 15-25 other names to end the list.

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

Mostly a complete offense and a willingness to be the man on the offense. I'm also a fan of physicality and aggressiveness in a player. NHL readiness isn't really something I value too highly, but it is certainly a factor in this ranking as the first five should all be in the NHL this year. Another thing I value highly is intelligence. If a player showcases a good level of on-ice IQ, he's most likely a favorite of mine.

First - thanks @Mrb1p I always enjoy your commentary.

No disrespect, but in reading this and thinking about Stankoven, I am really disappointed he's at #37. You sound as if you'd love this player, yet I see you value guys like Savoie and Firkus higher (who he clearly outplayed in the WHL). One thing I will say, there's a lot of variation in opinions on how good Logan will be out there and where to draft him in keeper leagues, but no one questions his willingness and IQ. Absolute bull.

Anyhow...when he gets his chance I think he'll make you eat your list. lol