Add Carlos 4.1 and replace him with someone like Schenn or Gudas. We get tougher, cheaper, and both those guys can get the puck out of their own end.
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How is it people still think Coyle is anything more than a 3C?
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I am going to try and be fair to Lysell, he could have just hit the rookie wall as the season went on but his second half of the year, after the world juniors, looked pretty weak, add that to a pretty serious hit in the playoffs and I would not be upset if Lysell helped to bring a 25 year old or younger top 2 center.
Lohrei is not what they need on D. Another Carlo with better puck moving skills who is big and doesn't push back is not the way to fix the D. Hope I am wrong and I have not seen a lot of Lohrei but the impression I get is a poor man's Dougie Hamilton.
Would it be so terrible to have a poor man's Dougie Hamilton on an entry level contract the next couple of years? No he won't be the physical killer you may want, but this team also desperately needs high end talent.
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Sounds better than anything they had on the 3rd pair last season.
As for Lysell, still too early to judge.
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I was using the Hamilton comparison as his high end, I think he needs at least one season in Providence.
If he was a number 6 LD in two years teamed with Radko Gudas or Like Schenn it would not be horrible but I don't let a number 6 D keep me from making a trade for a top 2 center.
First of all, as much as I love Patrice, it's time. It's also time for #46 to hang 'em up as well.
Bergeron is the most selfless player I've ever encountered. Still, when he said, "I'm playing game five," Jim Montgomery should have said, "No. You're not." Same with Krejci.
(There is someone called a head coach.
(There is a reason he is called a head coach.
(These "stupefying" episodes are more than enough to make me question Jim Montgomery's decision making as a head coach, especially in the playoffs. These inexplicable decisions were astonishing in their ineptitude and remain completely unacceptable. I do not want Montgomery cashiered, but clearly, there is much to learn from what can only be described as a total meltdown on several fronts. I still don't understand it.)
In the event, both Patrice & David will be gone when the puck drops in October.
What then?
The Bruins somehow bring in a legitimate 1C through trade or free agency, for God knows who and God knows what.
Or, perhaps more likely, they turn to Zacha and Charlie as 1 & 2C.
Perhaps bidding adieu to the Trent Frederic Experiment after five years is in order.
When camp rolls around, see what you have in Marc McLaughlin. I am a fan and believe he is steady, responsible and ready for NHL fourth -- or third -- line responsibilities.
Take a good look at Brett Harrison, John Beecher for 4C. Take a look at Georgii Merkulov.
Absent or even given these options, it's going to be 1C Zacha and 2C Coyle.
Not ideal. But Zacha is just 26 and has proven his ability to step in at both 1C & 2C in the absence of #37 & #46.
Before Jim Montgomery made his second great mistake of R1 in swapping out Coyle & Zacha for the plainly injured and largely ineffectual Bergeron & Krejci, Coyle and Zacha were money. The former brought his now highly specialized shut down and puck possession prowess to bear. It was working.
It can, in the short term anyway, work again.
The 1C problem won't be solved soon, easily, or painlessly.
That's the deal.
Enjoy,
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Please Dk comeback one of my favorite bruins of all time. He had a suberb season and still has a solid year in him. Crossing my fingers.
its hilariously frustrating how many Bruins have f***ing trade protection
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Most players do. That’s almost a given. Most of the time it’s not a problem when asked.
yeah, I think there are very few really good players in the league who are in their 3rd or even really second contract who don't have trade protections in them
Slers are strugling with cap, so Pasternak is no go. Marchands terms would look much better to keep the window open for few years.
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TCB
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I wouldn't mind DK coming back but at league minimum and no bonus money, its just time to move in another direction and go out and get a young thoroughbred at the Center position. Changes are coming and it has to do more so with the cap issue, money needs to be moved out for changes to happen, so I really don't believe Kreech or even Bergy are number one on the priority list for Sweeney.
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Starting to become concerned about his health. Not only he needs to beef up. But as a smallish player... find ways to not get crushed
that punk Adam Clendening... Raffi Torres, Tom Wilson BS blindside hit.
He wants to be a hab though, so most likely you get him for a year, then he leaves as a UFA.
I was more in favour of trading Lysell and Lohrei instead of the top picks, but maybe then can be used in deals to bring in some 25 or under talent.
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Yeah I agree, he would be a great fit with the Bruins, if he would agree to sign an extension great, but if he really wants to be in Montreal, he will end up there.
OT:
The 2022-2023 regular season and first round playoff implosion may be instructive going forward.
The Bruins will no longer be charmed. If anything, they will be mocked and doubted.
Many things will likely go wrong, unlike Jim Montgomery's maiden voyage, when everything and its brother went right.
The tea leaves, and that's all they are, suggest Bergeron and Krejci will not return. Even if they do, the bloom is off the rose. The B's will not be as talented, deep or fortunate as they were in 22-23.
Jim Montgomery will no longer be the (metaphorically) fair haired coach, resplendent in system and communication with his Millennial/Gen Z tenders. He will still be a players coach, but he can, and he must, make wiser decisions.
Montgomery must grow as a coach. Or else.
All of this is salutary.
Once again, the B's can fly beneath the radar -- a very good, playoff caliber club sans gaudy numbers and therefore sans conspicuous notice.
They will lurk.
"Sweenes" 101, retool, restructure and realign on the fly, with mixed though generally favorable results.
Recall the "historic" 2010 playoff collapse against the Flyers.
The sky fell.
What followed that humiliating playoff collapse?
Digging deep. Quiet resolve, heady, steady play. Growth.
And...
The analogy is not precise, but the lesson, more or less, can be revisited.
As Neil Young might say, "Should be in'eresting,"
The 2022-2023 regular season and first round playoff implosion may be instructive going forward.
The Bruins will no longer be charmed. If anything, they will be mocked and doubted.
Many things will likely go wrong, unlike Jim Montgomery's maiden voyage, when everything and its brother went right.
The tea leaves, and that's all they are, suggest Bergeron and Krejci will not return. Even if they do, the bloom is off the rose. The B's will not be as talented, deep or fortunate as they were in 22-23.
Jim Montgomery will no longer be the (metaphorically) fair haired coach, resplendent in system and communication with his Millennial/Gen Z tenders. He will still be a players coach, but he can, and he must, make wiser decisions.
Montgomery must grow as a coach. Or else.
All of this is salutary.
Once again, the B's can fly beneath the radar -- a very good, playoff caliber club sans gaudy numbers and therefore sans conspicuous notice.
They will lurk.
"Sweenes" 101, retool, restructure and realign on the fly, with mixed though generally favorable results.
Recall the "historic" 2010 playoff collapse against the Flyers.
The sky fell.
What followed that humiliating playoff collapse?
Digging deep. Quiet resolve, heady, steady play. Growth.
And...
The analogy is not precise, but the lesson, more or less, can be revisited.
As Neil Young might say, "Should be in'eresting,"
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I'd call NJD about Michael McLeod and see what the price would be. With Hischier and Hughes in the fold for year to come, McLeod is kind of stuck in a 3rd line role for them. They have some big signings to take care of this off-season (Timo & Bratt to name a few). Don't think cap space would be too big of a concern as they current show $34 million in space.
McLeod would give Boston a young decent RHC with upside that's been strong in the dot over the last few years. His offensive numbers won't wow you with 4G/22A last season, but Zacha's numbers did wow people either when he game over from NJD last year.
McLeod would give Boston a young decent RHC with upside that's been strong in the dot over the last few years. His offensive numbers won't wow you with 4G/22A last season, but Zacha's numbers did wow people either when he game over from NJD last year.
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Feel bad for Marchand here as it looks like everyone's picking out their dance partners and I mean literally as he just gets snatched away as Carlo seems more interested in looking at himself on the jumbotron and Grizz finally was able to get his hands on his dance partners shoulder and Jake and Nosek neither one of them could handle one of Greenways arms. Bruins need to get so much tougher.
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He's a 4th line guy. 3rd would be too high up IMO. He is a great 4th line C though.
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I like the idea of Alex Newhook. Avs need a 2C and are probably losing JTC to free agency (who is also an interesting target)
Coyle for Newhook
Coyle for Newhook
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