daver
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Interested to hear opinions on whether Crosby should be moved to the first or second line to take advantage of his offensive skills better. Or is it too late to start messing with what is working so far?
There doesn't appear to be a problem with the current setup - I'd leave him on the 3rd line with Tambellini. He's not facing the top lines of the opponents, so he has a greater chance of success.daver said:Interested to hear opinions on whether Crosby should be moved to the first or second line to take advantage of his offensive skills better. Or is it too late to start messing with what is working so far?
David said:3. At least at this WJC, he's not receiving as many passes from his teammates. It's almost as if Sid is being 'frozen out' by his teammates at times sort of like Michael Jordan was at his earlier All-star game by his own teammates. Even on PP, Sid is often being ignored although he's in good position to receive a pass or to score.
David said:For whatever it's worth, and I am sadden by the conclusion that I arrived at but I feel that Sid will be a dynamic star in the NHL... but not the one to break Wayne Gretzky's records. I think that he'll be someone along the lines of a more gritty and physical combination of a Pat Lafontaine and Pavel Bure...which would be a phenominal feat all on it's own!
...But once again, Sid, here's your opportunity to make me eat crow and prove me wrong! ...'cos Sid, I am rooting for you every day!
Van said:To even suggest that his Team Canada teammates are ignoring him is ludicrous. Everybody on this team, including Sidney Crosby, realizes that this tournament is about winning the Gold Medal. The 2004 World U20 Championship is not the Sidney Crosby Show, like many people had selfishly hoped it would be.
Sidney Crosby is not scoring like mad at this tournament because he is a 3rd line player.
Van said:To even suggest that his Team Canada teammates are ignoring him is ludicrous. Everybody on this team, including Sidney Crosby, realizes that this tournament is about winning the Gold Medal. The 2004 World U20 Championship is not the Sidney Crosby Show, like many people had selfishly hoped it would be.
Sidney Crosby is not scoring like mad at this tournament because he is a 3rd line player.
Mizral said:How about we look past all the BS and get to the nitty gritty.
Sidney Crosby is not good enough to play on the top 2 lines on this team. There, I said it.
I've seen Crosby play all three games now, and he didn't look like he was one of the best 3 Canadian forwards in any of them. Big deal, a nice goal against the Swiss. Sorry, but nice goals don't mean the kid gets a free pass.
Getzlaf/Carter/Burns currently is scaring the living POOP out of the opposition, and is playing great. Certainly all three have done more than Crosby at this point, ice time difference or not. Stewart/Richards/Dawes has been arguably just as good as the top line and have loads of chemistry.
In fact, I would argue the Paille line has been better than Crosby, and Paille himself has been better than Crosby this tournament.
This post is not a Crosby slag either. Just some people need to be reminded..
SIDNEY CROSBY IS ONLY 16 YEARS OLD!!
A 16 year old is not going to play some of the best 18 and 19 year olds at this tournament. Crosby or not, I don't think he has been any better than Tambellini, Talbot, or Dawes. He's been okay, but hardly one of Team Canada's best forwards. Maybe in a couple years.
As for the poster who complained Crosby is not the next Gretzky, I could have told you that months ago. Yes he's a kickass youngster and yes he's got skill coming out his behind. But he's really not a lot better than other phenoms such as Lindros, Thornton, or Spezza. He will be a very good NHL'er, isn't that enough?
Crosbyfan said:Since when do you have to be a lot better than phenoms Lindros, Thornton or Spezza to be more than a "very good NHLer".
You're right about one thing though. He'll be one of Team Canada's best forwards "in a couple of years" but it won't be U20 it'll be 2006 Olympics.
Crosbyfan said:Since when do you have to be a lot better than phenoms Lindros, Thornton or Spezza to be more than a "very good NHLer".
You're right about one thing though. He'll be one of Team Canada's best forwards "in a couple of years" but it won't be U20 it'll be 2006 Olympics.
Mizral said:Outside of Forsberg, Lidstrom, and Brodeur, I don't see any player in the NHL who I would classify as an 'elite amongst the elite' group. Crosby is not better than Forsberg was at the same age. Obviously it's tough to compare him to Lidstrom and Brodeur.
As for Crosby at the 2006 Olympics, he hasn't got a chance. He'll be 19 years old by the time that rolls around.
Crosbyfan said:He'll be 18 when he's at the Olympics and people will be arguing that he should be moved up to the first or second line.
Van said:Come 2006, if Crosby is in the NHL (which is still a question to be answered), he likely won't play for any national team as NHL clubs rarely release players for the U20....and nobody can seriously believe Crosby has even a remote chance at cracking the 2006 Olympic team if it features NHL players.
Epsilon said:You are making the erronous assumption that common sense can overcome fanboyism.
Van said:Come 2006, if Crosby is in the NHL (which is still a question to be answered), he likely won't play for any national team as NHL clubs rarely release players for the U20....and nobody can seriously believe Crosby has even a remote chance at cracking the 2006 Olympic team if it features NHL players.
Crosbyfan said:Not even a remote chance? If he improves at an "average " pace over the next 2+ years and grows at an "average" pace over the next 2+ years he will make the team. Guys mature physically way more between 16 and 18 than after that and mentally he's already there. Can you honestly believe he has no chance to close the gap?
Crosbyfan said:Not even a remote chance? If he improves at an "average " pace over the next 2+ years and grows at an "average" pace over the next 2+ years he will make the team. Guys mature physically way more between 16 and 18 than after that and mentally he's already there. Can you honestly believe he has no chance to close the gap?