Most Lopsided Goal/Assist Totals?
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JSmith81x
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This season ...
Brad Boyes: 43 goals, 22 assists (66%)
Marek Svatos: 26 goals, 11 assists (66%)
Niklas Hagman: 27 goals, 14 assists (65%)
Brad Boyes: 43 goals, 22 assists (66%)
Marek Svatos: 26 goals, 11 assists (66%)
Niklas Hagman: 27 goals, 14 assists (65%)
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Wayne Bianchin |1976-77|PIT|LW|28|6|82,35%
Peter "Bonzai" Bondra |1994-95|WAS|RW|34|9|79,07%
Bill Collins |1969-70|DAL|RW|29|9|76,32%
Brian "Mr. October" Savage |1995-96|MTL|LW|25|8|75,76%
Wendel "Boomer" Clark |1985-86|TOR|LW|34|11|75,56%
Ray Sheppard |1994-95|DET|RW|30|10|75,00%
Eric "Dazer" Daze |1997-98|CHI|LW|31|11|73,81%
Rick "Nasher" Nash |2003-04|CLB|LW|41|16|71,93%
Adam "Gravy" Graves |1998-99|NYR|LW|38|15|71,70%
Ron "Spaceman" Sedlbauer |1978-79|VAN|LW|40|16|71,43%
Mike "Garts" Gartner |1990-91|NYR|RW|49|20|71,01%
Errol "Curly" Thompson |1979-80|DET|LW|34|14|70,83%
Reggie "The Riverton Rifle" Leach |1976-77|PHI|RW|32|14|69,57%
Brent "Pup" Sutter |1983-84|NYI|C|34|15|69,39%
Jordan "Gronk" Staal |2006-07|PIT|C|29|13|69,05%
Tim "Sultan of Slot" Kerr |1985-86|PHI|RW|58|26|69,05%
Danny "Tickets" Gare |1975-76|BUF|RW|50|23|68,49%
Sergei "Zholi" Zholtok |1999-00|MTL|C|26|12|68,42%
Perry "Percy" Turnbull |1982-83|STL|LW|32|15|68,09%
Cam "Bam-Bam" Neely |1993-94|BOS|RW|50|24|67,57%
Lanny "Big Mac" Mcdonald |1982-83|CGY|RW|66|32|67,35%
Craig "Simmer" Simpson |1987-88|EDM|RW|43|21|67,19%
Peter "Bonzai" Bondra |1997-98|WAS|RW|52|26|66,67%
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Wow, fancy table! 
Yeah, Bondra doesn't surprise me one bit being on there twice. He was actually one of the first I looked at when I started doing this.
Yeah, Bondra doesn't surprise me one bit being on there twice. He was actually one of the first I looked at when I started doing this.
How about Brett Hull's 86 goal season? He had 45 assists. Just for comparison, Gretzky had 120 assists when he scored 92 goals. And 118 assists the year he scored 87 goals.
How about the biggest ratio in reverse? I would imagine Gretzky's 52 goals vs his 163 assists ranks up there.
How about the biggest ratio in reverse? I would imagine Gretzky's 52 goals vs his 163 assists ranks up there.
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Adam Oates has a couple of seasons worth mentioning: 90-91 he scored 25+90=115 points in 61gp and in 00-01 13+69=82
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Hockey Outsider
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In 1947, Leafs defensemen led all blueliners in scoring with 0 goals, 29 assists. He was a tough, physical defender who played a big role on four Stanley Cup-winning teams. He played nearly 800 games and was a two-time 2nd team all-star.
I guess it's not surprising that a defensive defensemen on an excellent offensive team would hold the record for most assists without a goal.
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Cool. Do you have similar stats for d-men only? Off the top of my head remember Sergei Gonchar and Adrian Aucoin finishing with 20+ goals and only about 10 assists. And Dustin Byfuglien finished with more goals than assists this season... pretty rare feat.
Sinter Klaas
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I know he doesn't meet the minimum goal criteria but one year for Quebec, Scott Pearson scored 13 goals registering just 1 assist. Puck hog!
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I'm pretty sure you're talking about Jimmy Thomson... But hey HO, this ain't the ATD board, you can name the players
JSmith81x
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Byfuglien's a forward now. 8 goals and about 15 points at D, 11 goals and about 20 points up front.
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Pear Juice
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High Assists to Goals ratios doesn't strike me as exceptional since it's so common. It's much more rare to see a great sniper with lousy assist stats.
Interesting question: Is this only a product of NHL counting secondary assists? Or is it somehow that the pure setup-man with a crapload of assists is a more common role than the excellent sniper whose only roll is to score? I would guess it's just a product of the secondary assist (nothing wrong with it), but it would be interesting to see someone dig into it statistically. For example, does known snipers such as Brett Hull or Pavel Bure, who actually have decent goal/assist ratios, have mainly secondary assists?
A forward scoring a truckload of assists and no goals will be labeled an excellent playmaker, and a forward bunching up on a great number of goals, but hardly any assists will have an egoistic reputation.
Does the true goalscorer/sniper have a "bad" reputation? Not really bad, but not quite as classy (I hate that word) as the playmaker. I guess in the end it all comes down to how he plays his game outside of the offensive zone. Alexander Ovechkin has a good reputation since he works alot in his own zone, and shows a lot of emotion in the games, whereas Pavel Bure is renowned as somewhat of a slouch just sitting on the blueline and waiting for the breakout pass. Thoughts?
Interesting question: Is this only a product of NHL counting secondary assists? Or is it somehow that the pure setup-man with a crapload of assists is a more common role than the excellent sniper whose only roll is to score? I would guess it's just a product of the secondary assist (nothing wrong with it), but it would be interesting to see someone dig into it statistically. For example, does known snipers such as Brett Hull or Pavel Bure, who actually have decent goal/assist ratios, have mainly secondary assists?
A forward scoring a truckload of assists and no goals will be labeled an excellent playmaker, and a forward bunching up on a great number of goals, but hardly any assists will have an egoistic reputation.
Does the true goalscorer/sniper have a "bad" reputation? Not really bad, but not quite as classy (I hate that word) as the playmaker. I guess in the end it all comes down to how he plays his game outside of the offensive zone. Alexander Ovechkin has a good reputation since he works alot in his own zone, and shows a lot of emotion in the games, whereas Pavel Bure is renowned as somewhat of a slouch just sitting on the blueline and waiting for the breakout pass. Thoughts?
Dark Shadows
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Cyclone taylor 1917-1918
18 games played, 32 goals/11 assists
Newsy Lalonde back in the early days of the NHL too
23 games played, 36 goals and 6 assists in 1919-1920
Oh wait. Post expansion era you said
18 games played, 32 goals/11 assists
Newsy Lalonde back in the early days of the NHL too
23 games played, 36 goals and 6 assists in 1919-1920
Oh wait. Post expansion era you said
Hockey Outsider
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I'm pretty sure you're talking about Jimmy Thomson... But hey HO, this ain't the ATD board, you can name the players
I actually meant to type his name...
But you're right, when I'm writing something in the HOH forum I often blank out the player's name by mistake. It's a forced habit by now.
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Cyclone taylor 1917-1918
18 games played, 32 goals/11 assists
Newsy Lalonde back in the early days of the NHL too
23 games played, 36 goals and 6 assists in 1919-1920
Oh wait. Post expansion era you said
You couldn't count that era of Lalonde, Joe Malone, Howie Morenz etc. anyways, only 1 assist were handed out per goals in those days.
