Most Goals against one team in a 17 game stretch?

alphahelix · 2024-11-01T09:24:07-0400

pnep said:
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Most Goals against one team in a 17 game stretch?

Draisaitl is really close to this record in his last 17gp vs. the Preds, and being at an assist per game hes gotta be pretty high in points against one team too. Is there a gold standard for dominating one team in a 20 game stretch, or a 5 year period, or over a career? Gordie Howe has the...

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Your stats show “streaks” which means if a player has a 0 point game in that stretch their data is not included.

So … I’m looking for the same data, but NOT a streak. Just raw scoring over a stretch of games. I don’t know whether this would be a higher # of goals/points, or lower, or roughly equivalent data. But Draisaitl’s Nashville exploits would show higher than his Vancouver exploits if it were measured appropriately, for example.

pnep · 2024-11-01T09:26:59-0400

alphahelix said:
Your stats show “streaks” which means if a player has a 0 point game in that stretch their data is not included.

So … I’m looking for the same data, but NOT a streak. Just raw scoring over a stretch of games. I don’t know whether this would be a higher # of goals/points, or lower, or roughly equivalent data. But Draisaitl’s Nashville exploits would show higher than his Vancouver exploits if it were measured appropriately, for example.

huh??

check post #17

not "streak" in this table

Most PTS VS Franch. In A 20 Game Stretch (Reg. Seasons 1917-2024):

Most Goals against one team in a 17 game stretch?

Draisaitl is really close to this record in his last 17gp vs. the Preds, and being at an assist per game hes gotta be pretty high in points against one team too. Is there a gold standard for dominating one team in a 20 game stretch, or a 5 year period, or over a career? Gordie Howe has the...

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Bank Shot · 2024-11-01T09:30:42-0400

alphahelix said:
Its kind of funny that these stats dont include Draisaitl’s dominance vs. Nashville because he is not actually on a “streak” , he has 0 point games. He just scores at an unbelievable rate in the other games. Is there a way to refine the stat so it’s not necessarily a “streak” but just whoever has the highest pure production over a consecutive stretch of games?

Obviously it’s still Gretzky, but it would be fun to see the difference between his streaks and his pure highest output.

He showed you best production over a 20 game stretch in the first chart.

Hennessy · 2024-11-01T09:38:35-0400

The man never fails to deliver. Bless you, pnep.

Stealth JD · 2024-11-01T10:01:30-0400

@pnep - Great stuff. Thanks for your contributions.

GRob83 · 2024-11-01T10:06:59-0400

27 Goals on 79 Shots for a 34.2 Shooting% is super impressive. Especially against Nashville who has had Rinne and Saros in net for the large majority of Draisaitls career. Not exactly slouches.

Romang67 · 2024-11-01T10:10:27-0400

WaitingForThatCab said:
You should never use ChatGPT for factual information. ChatGPT is not "AI," it is a language learning model. It looks at things that have been fed into it and then spits out something that looks like it would fit into the data set. It will present 'facts' to you that are completely fabricated, and it will do this basically all the time.

If you ask ChatGPT how much toothpaste you should eat to get your recommended daily intake of toothpastium, it will probably tell you to consume at least two full tubes to maintain a balanced diet.

Not quite right. It won't always present false information. In fact, I'd argue that's the biggest issue with LLMs. There is no difference in how it presents 100% valid information to how it presents 100% false information, or anything in between.

I can tell people they can use ChatGPT as a Google substitute, and it's not an entirely bad (although widely irresponsible) idea.

alphahelix · 2024-11-01T11:05:38-0400

pnep said:
huh??

check post #17

not "streak" in this table

Most PTS VS Franch. In A 20 Game Stretch (Reg. Seasons 1917-2024):

Most Goals against one team in a 17 game stretch?

Draisaitl is really close to this record in his last 17gp vs. the Preds, and being at an assist per game hes gotta be pretty high in points against one team too. Is there a gold standard for dominating one team in a 20 game stretch, or a 5 year period, or over a career? Gordie Howe has the...

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Bank Shot said:
He showed you best production over a 20 game stretch in the first chart.

correct correct, thank you both.

I guess what I want to see is that EXACT chart but just for Goals instead of points? Draisaitls 16 assists in 16 games is nice but not exceptional. The goals component is what is near the top.

benfranklin · 2024-11-01T11:39:01-0400

Bank Shot said:
I think what you are grasping for is that Oilers haters are stupid and the Oilers are a good team outside McDavid.

Its pretty evident how much the team defaults to him when he is in there. This is the first game they've looked good all season.

Honestly, it should start the ass backwards conversation of if theyre better off without him. Trade him for a kings random, attach Nurse to the deal, and actually have come out on top.

WaitingForThatCab said:
You should never use ChatGPT for factual information. ChatGPT is not "AI," it is a language learning model. It looks at things that have been fed into it and then spits out something that looks like it would fit into the data set. It will present 'facts' to you that are completely fabricated, and it will do this basically all the time.

If you ask ChatGPT how much toothpaste you should eat to get your recommended daily intake of toothpastium, it will probably tell you to consume at least two full tubes to maintain a balanced diet.

So those statements about Gretzky are inaccurate?

Toby91ca · 2024-11-01T11:49:38-0400

McFlash97 said:
Draisaitls production against the Predators is Gretzky pace.

Just pure ownage.

Not even close to Gretzky pace. Perhaps Gretzky pace in the 80s against every team, but he was putting up 4+ PPG in similar stretches against some teams.

KirkAlbuquerque · 2024-11-01T11:53:04-0400

I think Drew Stafford averaged 2 goals per game against the NYR in his career

pnep · 2024-11-01T12:21:17-0400

alphahelix said:
I guess what I want to see is that EXACT chart but just for Goals instead of points?

Most Goals VS Franch. In A 20 Game Stretch (Reg. Seasons 1917-2024)

Player *	POS	OPP	From_Game	To_Game	From_Season	To_Season	From	To	G
Malone Joe	C	TOR	1	19	1917-18	1919-20	26.12.1917	16.02.1920	37
Lalonde Newsy	C	TOR	2	21	1917-18	1919-20	29.12.1917	04.02.1920	36
Lalonde Newsy	C	HAM	1	19	1919-20	1921-22	24.12.1919	11.02.1922	35
Dye Babe	RW	MTL	7	26	1919-20	1922-23	10.03.1920	16.12.1922	35

Gretzky Wayne	C	TOR	4	23	1979-80	1985-86	29.03.1980	19.02.1986	32
Dye Babe	RW	HAM	7	26	1919-20	1922-23	06.03.1920	10.01.1923	32
Denneny Cy	LW	HAM	4	23	1919-20	1922-23	21.01.1920	16.12.1922	32
Denneny Cy	LW	TOR	41	60	1921-22	1924-25	25.02.1922	27.12.1924	31
Malone Joe	C	SLE	3	22	1917-18	1919-20	12.01.1918	10.03.1920	30

Gretzky Wayne	C	DAL	10	29	1981-82	1987-88	19.12.1981	30.03.1988	29
Gretzky Wayne	C	STL	1	19	1979-80	1984-85	29.01.1980	15.12.1984	29
Esposito Phil	C	VAN	6	25	1970-71	1974-75	13.03.1971	09.01.1975	29
Denneny Corb	C	HAM	1	20	1919-20	1921-22	27.12.1919	18.01.1922	29
Gretzky Wayne	C	PIT	1	20	1979-80	1984-85	19.01.1980	26.01.1985	28
Lemieux Mario	C	NYR	35	54	1989-90	1993-94	14.11.1989	12.03.1994	28
Richard Maurice	RW	DET	7	26	1943-44	1945-46	12.12.1943	24.11.1945	28
Goulet Michel	LW	CAR	8	27	1981-82	1983-84	06.10.1981	28.01.1984	28
Gretzky Wayne	C	ARI	13	32	1982-83	1984-85	03.11.1982	06.01.1985	27
Gretzky Wayne	C	LAK	1	20	1979-80	1982-83	22.12.1979	23.12.1982	27
Bossy Mike	RW	CHI	9	28	1978-79	1984-85	29.03.1979	13.01.1985	27
Robitaille Luc	LW	COL	3	22	1986-87	1994-95	14.03.1987	27.02.1995	27
Malone Joe	C	MTL	1	20	1919-20	1921-22	24.12.1919	11.02.1922	27
Boucher Billy	RW	HAM	6	25	1921-22	1924-25	11.02.1922	13.12.1924	27
Morenz Howie	C	BRK	11	30	1926-27	1929-30	19.02.1927	18.03.1930	27
Broadbent Punch	RW	MTL	4	23	1919-20	1922-23	27.12.1919	10.01.1923	27
Cowley Bill	C	NYR	59	78	1942-43	1944-45	06.12.1942	21.01.1945	26
Lemieux Mario	C	CAR	6	25	1986-87	1995-96	28.10.1986	23.02.1996	26
Gretzky Wayne	C	PHI	7	26	1980-81	1987-88	25.02.1981	30.12.1987	26
Lafleur Guy	RW	PIT	15	34	1974-75	1977-78	27.11.1974	29.12.1977	25
Lemieux Mario	C	PHI	37	56	1990-91	1995-96	31.01.1991	27.01.1996	25
Dionne Marcel	C	DAL	23	42	1975-76	1980-81	17.02.1976	14.03.1981	25
Hull Brett	RW	NYI	1	20	1987-88	1993-94	20.10.1987	12.03.1994	25
Hull Brett	RW	EDM	9	28	1989-90	1995-96	02.01.1990	10.10.1995	25
Cameron Harry	D	HAM	5	24	1919-20	1921-22	07.02.1920	04.03.1922	25

* - one "20 Game Stretch" per Player/Franch pair.

alphahelix · 2024-11-01T14:38:55-0400

pnep said:
Most Goals VS Franch. In A 20 Game Stretch (Reg. Seasons 1917-2024)

Player * POS OPP From_Game To_Game From_Season To_Season From To G
Malone Joe C TOR
1
19
1917-18 1919-20
26.12.1917
16.02.1920
37
Lalonde Newsy C TOR
2
21
1917-18 1919-20
29.12.1917
04.02.1920
36
Lalonde Newsy C HAM
1
19
1919-20 1921-22
24.12.1919
11.02.1922
35
Dye Babe RW MTL
7
26
1919-20 1922-23
10.03.1920
16.12.1922
35
Gretzky Wayne C TOR
4
23
1979-80 1985-86
29.03.1980
19.02.1986
32
Dye Babe RW HAM
7
26
1919-20 1922-23
06.03.1920
10.01.1923
32
Denneny Cy LW HAM
4
23
1919-20 1922-23
21.01.1920
16.12.1922
32
Denneny Cy LW TOR
41
60
1921-22 1924-25
25.02.1922
27.12.1924
31
Malone Joe C SLE
3
22
1917-18 1919-20
12.01.1918
10.03.1920
30
Gretzky Wayne C DAL
10
29
1981-82 1987-88
19.12.1981
30.03.1988
29
Gretzky Wayne C STL
1
19
1979-80 1984-85
29.01.1980
15.12.1984
29
Esposito Phil C VAN
6
25
1970-71 1974-75
13.03.1971
09.01.1975
29
Denneny Corb C HAM
1
20
1919-20 1921-22
27.12.1919
18.01.1922
29
Gretzky Wayne C PIT
1
20
1979-80 1984-85
19.01.1980
26.01.1985
28
Lemieux Mario C NYR
35
54
1989-90 1993-94
14.11.1989
12.03.1994
28
Richard Maurice RW DET
7
26
1943-44 1945-46
12.12.1943
24.11.1945
28
Goulet Michel LW CAR
8
27
1981-82 1983-84
06.10.1981
28.01.1984
28
Gretzky Wayne C ARI
13
32
1982-83 1984-85
03.11.1982
06.01.1985
27
Gretzky Wayne C LAK
1
20
1979-80 1982-83
22.12.1979
23.12.1982
27
Bossy Mike RW CHI
9
28
1978-79 1984-85
29.03.1979
13.01.1985
27
Robitaille Luc LW COL
3
22
1986-87 1994-95
14.03.1987
27.02.1995
27
Malone Joe C MTL
1
20
1919-20 1921-22
24.12.1919
11.02.1922
27
Boucher Billy RW HAM
6
25
1921-22 1924-25
11.02.1922
13.12.1924
27
Morenz Howie C BRK
11
30
1926-27 1929-30
19.02.1927
18.03.1930
27
Broadbent Punch RW MTL
4
23
1919-20 1922-23
27.12.1919
10.01.1923
27
Cowley Bill C NYR
59
78
1942-43 1944-45
06.12.1942
21.01.1945
26
Lemieux Mario C CAR
6
25
1986-87 1995-96
28.10.1986
23.02.1996
26
Gretzky Wayne C PHI
7
26
1980-81 1987-88
25.02.1981
30.12.1987
26
Lafleur Guy RW PIT
15
34
1974-75 1977-78
27.11.1974
29.12.1977
25
Lemieux Mario C PHI
37
56
1990-91 1995-96
31.01.1991
27.01.1996
25
Dionne Marcel C DAL
23
42
1975-76 1980-81
17.02.1976
14.03.1981
25
Hull Brett RW NYI
1
20
1987-88 1993-94
20.10.1987
12.03.1994
25
Hull Brett RW EDM
9
28
1989-90 1995-96
02.01.1990
10.10.1995
25
Cameron Harry D HAM
5
24
1919-20 1921-22
07.02.1920
04.03.1922
25

* - one "20 Game Stretch" per Player/Franch pair.

So with 26 in 16 Draisaitl just needs 3 more in the next 4 games to catch everybody but Gretzky and original 6 era stars. If he somehow gets 6 in the next 4 that’d match Gretzky’s best.

jigglysquishy · 2024-11-01T14:51:29-0400

alphahelix said:
So with 26 in 16 Draisaitl just needs 3 more in the next 4 games to catch everybody but Gretzky and original 6 era stars. If he somehow gets 6 in the next 4 that’d match Gretzky’s best.

Pre Original 6 by about 20 years.

McFlash97 · 2024-11-01T16:33:10-0400

Toby91ca said:
Not even close to Gretzky pace. Perhaps Gretzky pace in the 80s against every team, but he was putting up 4+ PPG in similar stretches against some teams.

Last 10 games against the Preds. Go look at Leon's Stats. Its pretty much Gretzky pace

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