Most Goals against one team in a 17 game stretch?

[alphahelix]

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Most Goals against one team in a 17 game stretch?

Draisaitl is really close to this record in his last 17gp vs. the Preds, and being at an assist per game hes gotta be pretty high in points against one team too. Is there a gold standard for dominating one team in a 20 game stretch, or a 5 year period, or over a career? Gordie Howe has the...

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Your stats show “streaks” which means if a player has a 0 point game in that stretch their data is not included.

So … I’m looking for the same data, but NOT a streak. Just raw scoring over a stretch of games. I don’t know whether this would be a higher # of goals/points, or lower, or roughly equivalent data. But Draisaitl’s Nashville exploits would show higher than his Vancouver exploits if it were measured appropriately, for example.

 

[pnep]

Your stats show “streaks” which means if a player has a 0 point game in that stretch their data is not included.

So … I’m looking for the same data, but NOT a streak. Just raw scoring over a stretch of games. I don’t know whether this would be a higher # of goals/points, or lower, or roughly equivalent data. But Draisaitl’s Nashville exploits would show higher than his Vancouver exploits if it were measured appropriately, for example.

huh??

check post #17

not "streak" in this table

Most PTS VS Franch. In A 20 Game Stretch (Reg. Seasons 1917-2024):

Most Goals against one team in a 17 game stretch?

Draisaitl is really close to this record in his last 17gp vs. the Preds, and being at an assist per game hes gotta be pretty high in points against one team too. Is there a gold standard for dominating one team in a 20 game stretch, or a 5 year period, or over a career? Gordie Howe has the...

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[Bank Shot]

Its kind of funny that these stats dont include Draisaitl’s dominance vs. Nashville because he is not actually on a “streak” , he has 0 point games. He just scores at an unbelievable rate in the other games. Is there a way to refine the stat so it’s not necessarily a “streak” but just whoever has the highest pure production over a consecutive stretch of games?

Obviously it’s still Gretzky, but it would be fun to see the difference between his streaks and his pure highest output.

He showed you best production over a 20 game stretch in the first chart.

 

[Hennessy]

The man never fails to deliver. Bless you, pnep.

 

[Stealth JD]

@pnep - Great stuff. Thanks for your contributions.

 

[GRob83]

27 Goals on 79 Shots for a 34.2 Shooting% is super impressive. Especially against Nashville who has had Rinne and Saros in net for the large majority of Draisaitls career. Not exactly slouches.

 

[Romang67]

You should never use ChatGPT for factual information. ChatGPT is not "AI," it is a language learning model. It looks at things that have been fed into it and then spits out something that looks like it would fit into the data set. It will present 'facts' to you that are completely fabricated, and it will do this basically all the time.

If you ask ChatGPT how much toothpaste you should eat to get your recommended daily intake of toothpastium, it will probably tell you to consume at least two full tubes to maintain a balanced diet.

Not quite right. It won't always present false information. In fact, I'd argue that's the biggest issue with LLMs. There is no difference in how it presents 100% valid information to how it presents 100% false information, or anything in between.

I can tell people they can use ChatGPT as a Google substitute, and it's not an entirely bad (although widely irresponsible) idea.

 

[alphahelix]

huh??

check post #17

not "streak" in this table

Most PTS VS Franch. In A 20 Game Stretch (Reg. Seasons 1917-2024):

Most Goals against one team in a 17 game stretch?

Draisaitl is really close to this record in his last 17gp vs. the Preds, and being at an assist per game hes gotta be pretty high in points against one team too. Is there a gold standard for dominating one team in a 20 game stretch, or a 5 year period, or over a career? Gordie Howe has the...

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He showed you best production over a 20 game stretch in the first chart.

correct correct, thank you both.

I guess what I want to see is that EXACT chart but just for Goals instead of points? Draisaitls 16 assists in 16 games is nice but not exceptional. The goals component is what is near the top.

 

[benfranklin]

I think what you are grasping for is that Oilers haters are stupid and the Oilers are a good team outside McDavid.

Its pretty evident how much the team defaults to him when he is in there. This is the first game they've looked good all season.

Honestly, it should start the ass backwards conversation of if theyre better off without him. Trade him for a kings random, attach Nurse to the deal, and actually have come out on top.

You should never use ChatGPT for factual information. ChatGPT is not "AI," it is a language learning model. It looks at things that have been fed into it and then spits out something that looks like it would fit into the data set. It will present 'facts' to you that are completely fabricated, and it will do this basically all the time.

If you ask ChatGPT how much toothpaste you should eat to get your recommended daily intake of toothpastium, it will probably tell you to consume at least two full tubes to maintain a balanced diet.

So those statements about Gretzky are inaccurate?

 

[Toby91ca]

Draisaitls production against the Predators is Gretzky pace.

Just pure ownage.

Not even close to Gretzky pace. Perhaps Gretzky pace in the 80s against every team, but he was putting up 4+ PPG in similar stretches against some teams.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I think Drew Stafford averaged 2 goals per game against the NYR in his career

 

[pnep]

I guess what I want to see is that EXACT chart but just for Goals instead of points?

Most Goals VS Franch. In A 20 Game Stretch (Reg. Seasons 1917-2024)

Player *	POS	OPP		From_Game	To_Game	From_Season	To_Season	From	To	G
Malone Joe	C	TOR		1​	19​	1917-18	1919-20	26.12.1917​	16.02.1920​	37​
Lalonde Newsy	C	TOR		2​	21​	1917-18	1919-20	29.12.1917​	04.02.1920​	36​
Lalonde Newsy	C	HAM		1​	19​	1919-20	1921-22	24.12.1919​	11.02.1922​	35​
Dye Babe	RW	MTL		7​	26​	1919-20	1922-23	10.03.1920​	16.12.1922​	35​
Gretzky Wayne	C	TOR		4​	23​	1979-80	1985-86	29.03.1980​	19.02.1986​	32​
Dye Babe	RW	HAM		7​	26​	1919-20	1922-23	06.03.1920​	10.01.1923​	32​
Denneny Cy	LW	HAM		4​	23​	1919-20	1922-23	21.01.1920​	16.12.1922​	32​
Denneny Cy	LW	TOR		41​	60​	1921-22	1924-25	25.02.1922​	27.12.1924​	31​
Malone Joe	C	SLE		3​	22​	1917-18	1919-20	12.01.1918​	10.03.1920​	30​
Gretzky Wayne	C	DAL		10​	29​	1981-82	1987-88	19.12.1981​	30.03.1988​	29​
Gretzky Wayne	C	STL		1​	19​	1979-80	1984-85	29.01.1980​	15.12.1984​	29​
Esposito Phil	C	VAN		6​	25​	1970-71	1974-75	13.03.1971​	09.01.1975​	29​
Denneny Corb	C	HAM		1​	20​	1919-20	1921-22	27.12.1919​	18.01.1922​	29​
Gretzky Wayne	C	PIT		1​	20​	1979-80	1984-85	19.01.1980​	26.01.1985​	28​
Lemieux Mario	C	NYR		35​	54​	1989-90	1993-94	14.11.1989​	12.03.1994​	28​
Richard Maurice	RW	DET		7​	26​	1943-44	1945-46	12.12.1943​	24.11.1945​	28​
Goulet Michel	LW	CAR		8​	27​	1981-82	1983-84	06.10.1981​	28.01.1984​	28​
Gretzky Wayne	C	ARI		13​	32​	1982-83	1984-85	03.11.1982​	06.01.1985​	27​
Gretzky Wayne	C	LAK		1​	20​	1979-80	1982-83	22.12.1979​	23.12.1982​	27​
Bossy Mike	RW	CHI		9​	28​	1978-79	1984-85	29.03.1979​	13.01.1985​	27​
Robitaille Luc	LW	COL		3​	22​	1986-87	1994-95	14.03.1987​	27.02.1995​	27​
Malone Joe	C	MTL		1​	20​	1919-20	1921-22	24.12.1919​	11.02.1922​	27​
Boucher Billy	RW	HAM		6​	25​	1921-22	1924-25	11.02.1922​	13.12.1924​	27​
Morenz Howie	C	BRK		11​	30​	1926-27	1929-30	19.02.1927​	18.03.1930​	27​
Broadbent Punch	RW	MTL		4​	23​	1919-20	1922-23	27.12.1919​	10.01.1923​	27​
Cowley Bill	C	NYR		59​	78​	1942-43	1944-45	06.12.1942​	21.01.1945​	26​
Lemieux Mario	C	CAR		6​	25​	1986-87	1995-96	28.10.1986​	23.02.1996​	26​
Gretzky Wayne	C	PHI		7​	26​	1980-81	1987-88	25.02.1981​	30.12.1987​	26​
Lafleur Guy	RW	PIT		15​	34​	1974-75	1977-78	27.11.1974​	29.12.1977​	25​
Lemieux Mario	C	PHI		37​	56​	1990-91	1995-96	31.01.1991​	27.01.1996​	25​
Dionne Marcel	C	DAL		23​	42​	1975-76	1980-81	17.02.1976​	14.03.1981​	25​
Hull Brett	RW	NYI		1​	20​	1987-88	1993-94	20.10.1987​	12.03.1994​	25​
Hull Brett	RW	EDM		9​	28​	1989-90	1995-96	02.01.1990​	10.10.1995​	25​
Cameron Harry	D	HAM		5​	24​	1919-20	1921-22	07.02.1920​	04.03.1922​	25​

* - one "20 Game Stretch" per Player/Franch pair.