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Realistically Chantal has free reign on all of us anyways
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Player Discussion Most disappointing Hughes Acquisition (All Michkov draft talk here)
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BLONG7
Registered User
The whole thing seems like something taken way out of context guys.
He may have mentioned to her, what do you think the fan base would do, if he traded for a franco and then made that franco part of another trade...........pretty simple.
She said the politically correct thing, that people may get upset..........
There may have never ever even been a deal in place, he was just asking.
Hugo at that point is just looking for her opinion on such a matter, not the trade itself.
The drama created by the media and fanbase in Montreal can be hilarious.
417
Sheeeeeeeeeeeit!!!!!
Wait until Michkovites convert into Leonardians.Well, I too was in the lot of those who wanted Michkov. However, I decided there was no point in pursuing arguments about what cannot be changed.
Heineman, also in his rookie year, is ahead of Michkov in points. And with the Habs doing well, you'd figure some of the talk about having missed out on Michkov might go away. But, not on this forum. Pretty sure this is not the end of all that @417 attemped to argue about the issue.
le_sean
Registered User
Because of 3 games? Two of his goals he lost the puck, they just went in. I mean he’s playing better than before but the bar was so incredibly low. He’s gone from the level of worst Top 6 player in the NHL to passable. He still needs to show more and he needs to show it more consistently.
Chicago traded a player that was oft injured and inconsistent. And since the trade he’s been oft injured and inconsistent.
In the last month. Apologies.
schwang26
Registered User
I still think there’s something fishy about Michkov. How often do young stars get let out of their contracts in the khl?The Habs and others passed on him for a reason. Maybe he’s not a good teammate. Maybe he’s not good in the room. I’m sure he’ll get his points though. Who knows. Time will tell if Reinbacher was the right choice.
Kudo Shinichi
Registered User
Michkov's last 12 games: 1 g 1 a, -14, 15:10 ATOI
Demidov >>>>
yianik
Registered User
I guess we may never know as to why the Habs passed on Michkov and the speculation will last at least a generation. Likelier though at some point, it may even be years from now, we will have information on it. Might not be from the Habs , it might just be talk about general concerns on Michkov, from some anonymous source.
For me, if the reasoning on making a certain decision is sound, I can usually live with the consequences without going off on the decision maker, even though things turned out badly. So if Michkov is that star player , that in and of itself doesnt mean Hughes made a bad decision. Obviously if Reinbacher is a wonderful player then that possibly changes things also.
At this point I accept we had our good reasons for passing on Michkov and I do so because there is no reason to not trust Hughes judgement at this point given from what I have seen of his decision making. And if he made the wrong selection ( against a bunch of good decisions ) and it was based on faulty logic, all I can say is it happens, but too bad it was on such an important pick.
For me, if the reasoning on making a certain decision is sound, I can usually live with the consequences without going off on the decision maker, even though things turned out badly. So if Michkov is that star player , that in and of itself doesnt mean Hughes made a bad decision. Obviously if Reinbacher is a wonderful player then that possibly changes things also.
At this point I accept we had our good reasons for passing on Michkov and I do so because there is no reason to not trust Hughes judgement at this point given from what I have seen of his decision making. And if he made the wrong selection ( against a bunch of good decisions ) and it was based on faulty logic, all I can say is it happens, but too bad it was on such an important pick.
Guy Larose
Registered User
Doesn't tell the whole story but read this post with the 3 articles
Post in thread 'F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL)' F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL)
Kennerback
Registered User
Yes. Not even close…. I watched tons of Sochi last year because I liked to watch Michkov that’s technically outstanding. But Demidov is much superior. No point to go and brag about it on the main board. Habs haters can have their fun until he gets to the NHL.
Guy Larose
Registered User
Agree
dauv
Registered User
Honestly can we just stop with all the MICHKOV post. For crying out loud, the way people are talking here is like we missed on a McDavid/Crosby/Gretzky type player. I assure you we didn't
Is he a good player? Seems like he is
Is he an eventual all star? Probably
Is he generational player? probably not
What I don't get is whatever happens with MICHKOV has no outcome on what REINBACHER becomes
again let's try this again
Is RB a good player? Seems like he is
Will RB be an eventual all star? Too Soon to tell as we haven't seen enough of him
Is RB a generational player? probably not
So what does this tell us Michkov so far may be an all star and RB we don't know yet. Still can't compare both players against each other yet.
PEOPLE need to stop saying MICHKOV is defintely better than this or that because no one knows how it's going to turn out until at least a few season of both players being in the NHL to compare
end of rant.
Is he a good player? Seems like he is
Is he an eventual all star? Probably
Is he generational player? probably not
What I don't get is whatever happens with MICHKOV has no outcome on what REINBACHER becomes
again let's try this again
Is RB a good player? Seems like he is
Will RB be an eventual all star? Too Soon to tell as we haven't seen enough of him
Is RB a generational player? probably not
So what does this tell us Michkov so far may be an all star and RB we don't know yet. Still can't compare both players against each other yet.
PEOPLE need to stop saying MICHKOV is defintely better than this or that because no one knows how it's going to turn out until at least a few season of both players being in the NHL to compare
end of rant.
Big Lurk
Registered User
Last 7 he's been playing better and contributing. He's turning it around now.
It is not perfect at all we all know it.
I can sense the fear in your post.
Put your name on the line big dawg
Put. It. On. The. Line.
If it Dach turns it around by the end of the year, you have to change your name to
Le_Poulet_Voyageur for a month
If I lose, then you choose mine
Make it fun playboy
expy
Registered User
Respect to the fanbase is not keeping francophone players here, it's building a winning team. Out with Chantal.
le_sean
Registered User
You say fear as if I hope that he doesn’t turn it around. I obviously want him to be a 2C.
The Great Weal
Phil's Pizza
Why wouldn't the same apply to Demidov if that's the case? If Demidov was actually good, why would other teams after San Jose pass up on him? Are we going to pretend that a top-end talent can't fall?
Hutson/Demidov/Hage conspired to fall to the Habs, the fiendish bastard(s).
Kennerback
Registered User
We could take Chicago and why they passed on Demidov. Maybe they drafted by need. Maybe they didn’t want the risks associated with a Russian. Maybe you can add for Anaheim and Columbus unease with having a Russian as the face of the franchise? Or they went BPA and made a terrible mistake.
I’m sure it’s not the case with Demidov, but maybe those team could pass on him if he’s an absolute douchebag.
Lafleurs Guy
Guuuuuuuy!
He's been improving for a while and the production is now coming. 5 points in his last 6 plus a game winner in the shootout to boot.
Kennerback
Registered User
What we’ve heard from Habs on why they passed on Michkov is need based. They needed a big RD and recently they said they didn’t want another small forward. If it’s character, that info has never leaked. It also might be touchy to publicly say a 19 year kid is a douchebag.
BLONG7
Registered User
Nothing like some facts, to make things more real eh...........he is the Flyers problem and Torts has had some issues, so......................the kid has crazy offensive skills, but who knows what else is there at this point.
Seems craxy, but teams do draft for need at times...........I certainly wouldn't but many GM's have.
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
It might be Reinbacher. We drafted by rare RD need IMO. Hope he turns out well but it was another KK pick (center need type pick). I don't care about Michkov. It's R Leonard we missed out on.
Newhook is another but it was what? Late 1st and early 2nd? Still a fan of Newhook but don't think he will be part of our team in the long run. I guess it's nice to have him in case of injuries at center. Good to have those winger/center guys as insurance.
This is probably why we didn't take Michkov. Talent galore but attitude and consistency issues. Problem is we should have taken R Leonard and not draft by RD need.
You draft for need but you take guys who have high potential. KK and Reinbacher picks are reaches because of the need IMO. Wings taking Danielson 9th in 2023 is also another center blunder and they took him because he had size. Beck has similar numbers to Danielson in the AHL this season and was taken much later
Both KK and Reinbacher were late movers close to the draft. I wonder how often that works out? Worked for Yzerman with Sieder but I do wonder the percentages.
Newhook is another but it was what? Late 1st and early 2nd? Still a fan of Newhook but don't think he will be part of our team in the long run. I guess it's nice to have him in case of injuries at center. Good to have those winger/center guys as insurance.
This is probably why we didn't take Michkov. Talent galore but attitude and consistency issues. Problem is we should have taken R Leonard and not draft by RD need.
You draft for need but you take guys who have high potential. KK and Reinbacher picks are reaches because of the need IMO. Wings taking Danielson 9th in 2023 is also another center blunder and they took him because he had size. Beck has similar numbers to Danielson in the AHL this season and was taken much later
Both KK and Reinbacher were late movers close to the draft. I wonder how often that works out? Worked for Yzerman with Sieder but I do wonder the percentages.
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The Great Weal
Phil's Pizza
So teams passed up on Michkov because he's an asshole and there's something fishy with him, but they passed up on Demidov to address needs even though he's the perfect player and teammate.
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